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| 04:13 | <stuarta> | morning |
| 04:19 | <gbee> | morning |
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| 05:01 | <cojonuo> | hello |
| 05:04 | <justinh> | morning :) |
| 05:05 | <cojonuo> | I will work to add MiroGuide suport to MythTube, It don't interfere with Mythtv? |
| 05:06 | <justinh> | so long as it's just a feed, not the you-know-what |
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| 05:08 | <cojonuo> | MiroGuide is the guide system to Miro (old DemocrazyPlayer) |
| 05:08 | <cojonuo> | Is an extense feed guide with more 5000 channels and GPL non-profit |
| 05:09 | <cojonuo> | And provide an API for developer |
| 05:09 | <justinh> | I can't see any harm in adding that |
| 05:09 | <stuarta> | depends what's in the channels |
| 05:10 | <justinh> | one way to find out. let's have a look |
| 05:10 | <cojonuo> | https://www.miroguide.com/ |
| 05:12 | <justinh> | if it's all GPL, non-pirated, safe to distribute.... I don't know how they can guarantee that |
| 05:12 | <stuarta> | my little alarm bell is ringing |
| 05:14 | <gbee> | even youtube can't guarentee it, what matters is their policy on removing infringing content |
| 05:14 | <bkero> | By miro you mean softcore porn, right? |
| 05:15 | <stuarta> | my big alarm bell is ringing |
| 05:15 | <cojonuo> | whats??? |
| 05:15 | <cojonuo> | bkero: I dont understand |
| 05:16 | <bkero> | It's a joke. There used to be a really bad pseudo-porn problem on democracyplayer. |
| 05:17 | <cojonuo> | aaaah jejeje |
| 05:17 | <cojonuo> | please add smile on final if is a joke, my english is soo bad |
| 05:17 | <cojonuo> | ;-) |
| 05:17 | <justinh> | apparently miro moderate all their feeds |
| 05:18 | <stuarta> | well that's a start |
| 05:18 | <cojonuo> | exactly |
| 05:18 | <justinh> | better than nothing & probably stops blatant adding of "teh star trekz0r channel" & such |
| 05:22 | <justinh> | I think they'll be erring on the side of caution. they're no youtube & probably can't risk being sued |
| 05:22 | <gbee> | for the second night in a row I've have an insect bite on my forearm, since the right arm is still swollen I now have a popeye look going on |
| 05:22 | <stuarta> | gin & tonic |
| 05:22 | <justinh> | ouchy |
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| 05:26 | <cojonuo> | ok, then no problem, right?? because heir policy content |
| 05:27 | <justinh> | in theory, no problem |
| 05:27 | <gbee> | cojonuo: looks fine for now |
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| 05:29 | <cojonuo> | ok, thanks guys |
| 05:30 | <Dubstar_04> | cojonuo: Where can I post bug reports / feature requests for mythtube? |
| 05:32 | <justinh> | feature requests? give the guy a break |
| 05:32 | <cojonuo> | jeje |
| 05:33 | <Dubstar_04> | I was wondering about support for Apple Movie trailers and this http://revision3.com/tekzilla/feed/xvid-large/ |
| 05:33 | <Dubstar_04> | They don't bring back the artwork |
| 05:34 | <cojonuo> | I think track ticket is a good site to it |
| 05:34 | <justinh> | do Apple mind having their site scraped? |
| 05:34 | <justinh> | I bet they do |
| 05:34 | <Dubstar_04> | Ok. Would you like any particular information attaching? |
| 05:34 | <Dubstar_04> | justinh: everyone does it!!! |
| 05:35 | <justinh> | and that makes mythtv safe from lawsuits? I don't think |
| 05:36 | <Dubstar_04> | It is already in use on the apple movie trailers script |
| 05:37 | <justinh> | so? that doesn't mean it'd be ok for something else to violate a site's T&Cs |
| 05:37 | <justinh> | even a glimmer of that & it won't stand a chance of becoming official |
| 05:37 | <Dubstar_04> | OK i will have a look into it |
| 05:38 | <Dubstar_04> | Maybe if if was capable of fetching all the information and the user had add the channel themselves? |
| 05:40 | <cojonuo> | Dubstar_04: attach info if you think is needed |
| 05:40 | <Dubstar_04> | cojonuo: Thanks. Amazing plugin, I love it... |
| 05:40 | <justinh> | Dubstar_04: might not even be a problem if the site's T&Cs don't disallow what's happening |
| 05:41 | <justinh> | I'm just making an assumption they forbid it - which is a fair assumption |
| 05:41 | <Dubstar_04> | It might be best if i look into it before i add a ticket on track. find out what they actually allow. |
| 05:43 | <justinh> | "You may not use any \u201cdeep-link\u201d, \u201cpage-scrape\u201d, \u201crobot\u201d, \u201cspider\u201d or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology, or any similar or equivalent manual process, to access, acquire, copy or monitor any portion of the Site or any Content, or in any way reproduce or circumvent the navigational structure or presentation of the Site or any Content, to obtain or attempt to obta |
| 05:43 | <justinh> | oops. sorry |
| 05:44 | <Dubstar_04> | Ha ha I was just about to post that myself |
| 05:44 | <cojonuo> | who is the T&Cs Site?? |
| 05:44 | <justinh> | so that's a pretty damn solid NO |
| 05:44 | <justinh> | cojonuo: apple.com |
| 05:44 | <Dubstar_04> | http://www.apple.com/trailers/ |
| 05:44 | <cojonuo> | ok ok, I'm idiot xD |
| 05:46 | <Dubstar_04> | How does XBMC and Media Portal Get away with it then? |
| 05:47 | <cojonuo> | they use apple trailers?? |
| 05:47 | <justinh> | Dubstar_04: they're naughty |
| 05:48 | <cojonuo> | but apple trailer no provide a json with trailers?? |
| 05:48 | <Dubstar_04> | Its crazy. They just include it in the core app!! |
| 05:48 | <justinh> | some projects just don't give a flying fig about the legality/morality of what they do, simple as that. |
| 05:58 | <cojonuo> | Dubstar_04: about don't thumbnail provide from tekzilla |
| 05:59 | <cojonuo> | is because (I think) they no provide correct RSS format |
| 05:59 | <cojonuo> | they and other site |
| 05:59 | <Dubstar_04> | Ok |
| 05:59 | <justinh> | Dubstar_04: btw re that character... no way would I sully a theme of mine with it. no offence. still keep thinking we need a cutesey kid friendly theme though |
| 05:59 | <Dubstar_04> | I'm offended!! Thats my best work todate!! |
| 06:00 | <Dubstar_04> | cojonuo: I have posted on track. It brings back everything but the artwork for the individual shows! |
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| 06:02 | <Dubstar_04> | justinh: Are you currently working on a new 'default' theme? |
| 06:02 | <justinh> | no |
| 06:03 | <justinh> | besides, any new 'default' isn't my call to make |
| 06:05 | <cojonuo> | Dubstar_04: please you can read here http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/ |
| 06:05 | <cojonuo> | if is correct add <media:thumbnail> into or out of <media:group> |
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| 06:09 | <Dubstar_04> | the feeds supply that <media:thumbnail> attributes |
| 06:09 | <cojonuo> | yes but some feeds supply <media:thumbnail> into <media:group> |
| 06:10 | <cojonuo> | and other feeds out of <media:group> |
| 06:10 | <cojonuo> | now I process <media:thumbnail> out of <media:group> but I think hack it and proces out and into <media:group> for it |
| 06:11 | <cojonuo> | but i don't understand where is correct position because i don't see it on http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/ |
| 06:12 | <Dubstar_04> | is there anyway to get it to do both? |
| 06:13 | <cojonuo> | on last public release not |
| 06:16 | <Dubstar_04> | http://paste.ubuntu.com/41179/ |
| 06:16 | <Dubstar_04> | is this the only processing for the feeds? |
| 06:17 | <cojonuo> | ok |
| 06:17 | <cojonuo> | you need check if thumbnail is previus get |
| 06:21 | <cojonuo> | no, no |
| 06:21 | <cojonuo> | tekzilla provide no into media:group, provide it into media:content |
| 06:22 | <cojonuo> | puff it is a crazy |
| 06:22 | <cojonuo> | ;-) |
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| 06:24 | <Dubstar_04> | can you use media:group || media:content? |
| 06:24 | <cojonuo> | i don't now 100% |
| 06:24 | <cojonuo> | i don't know 100% |
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| 06:25 | <Dubstar_04> | I don't understand either!! |
| 06:29 | <cojonuo> | Ok!, now I understand http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/ namespace |
| 06:29 | <cojonuo> | <media:group> can content <media:content> |
| 06:30 | <cojonuo> | <media:group> represent a group of <media:content> with same content on different format |
| 06:31 | <cojonuo> | and <media:thumbnail> can apear on <item>, <media:group> or <media:content> |
| 06:32 | <Dubstar_04> | I'm glad you understand. it seems complicated!! |
| 06:32 | <Dubstar_04> | Can you make it work? |
| 06:34 | <cojonuo> | yes, is simply I need rescribe a part of parseRSS |
| 06:35 | <Dubstar_04> | Fantastic!! This plugin is superb. Many thanks for all your work. |
| 06:35 | <cojonuo> | On next release I fix this |
| 06:36 | <Dubstar_04> | Many thanks. |
| 06:36 | <cojonuo> | The next release include minor changes, then I work on MiroGuide Support |
| 06:36 | <cojonuo> | I think it take me a lot of time |
| 06:36 | <Dubstar_04> | really? miro? |
| 06:38 | <justinh> | I'll be installing Miro tonight to see if there's really anything worthy of watching. it'll have to work hard to convince me |
| 06:38 | <Dubstar_04> | ha ha |
| 06:38 | <Dubstar_04> | There is some cool stuff |
| 06:38 | <Dubstar_04> | discovey channel |
| 06:38 | <cojonuo> | support to use they Guide, I wait a mail with API KEY |
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| 06:39 | <Dubstar_04> | That is going to be fantastic a real first for a media center app!! |
| 06:39 | <Dubstar_04> | conjonuo: Good luck and keep up the great work |
| 06:39 | <justinh> | what is? |
| 06:39 | <Dubstar_04> | justinh: what? |
| 06:40 | <justinh> | what is going to be a fantastic real first? |
| 06:40 | <Dubstar_04> | having something like miroguide built into an app for a media center |
| 06:41 | <Dubstar_04> | mce 2005 had a guide but it was rubbish and you had to pay for content |
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| 06:42 | <cojonuo> | I think add this guide to MythTube to subscribe at your feeds |
| 06:43 | <cojonuo> | Now I need work on mock_up |
| 06:45 | <cojonuo> | If somebody have a idea or mockup can send me by trac |
| 06:46 | <cojonuo> | I think Guide desing is very important |
| 06:47 | <Dubstar_04> | I have an idea |
| 06:47 | <Dubstar_04> | Do you know what coverflow is? |
| 06:48 | <cojonuo> | The coverflow itunes?? |
| 06:48 | <Dubstar_04> | yeah |
| 06:49 | <Dubstar_04> | you can access something like that to display the different channels |
| 06:49 | <cojonuo> | mmm..... |
| 06:49 | <Dubstar_04> | ok maybe not? |
| 06:49 | <cojonuo> | Item list is part of mythui and now no provide this |
| 06:50 | <Dubstar_04> | I will make a mock up |
| 06:50 | <Dubstar_04> | it is in mythui |
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| 06:50 | <Dubstar_04> | Ah justinh will know, plus he is probably the best a ui design |
| 06:50 | <cojonuo> | you can send to mythui developer |
| 06:51 | <cojonuo> | yes |
| 06:51 | <justinh> | eh? |
| 06:51 | <cojonuo> | hello justinh |
| 06:51 | <Dubstar_04> | hello justinh |
| 06:51 | <justinh> | uhoh. people want something. I can smell it |
| 06:51 | <Dubstar_04> | I think cojonuo has a job for you!! |
| 06:52 | <justinh> | ? |
| 06:52 | <Dubstar_04> | he wants a way to show the the items from miro guide |
| 06:53 | <Dubstar_04> | I suggested the coverflow module thingy |
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| 06:54 | <Dubstar_04> | https://miroguide.com/ |
| 06:54 | <Dubstar_04> | the webpage its quite well laid out |
| 06:54 | <Dubstar_04> | maybe something similar to that |
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| 07:06 | <justinh> | I think I'll pass on that opportunity if it's all the same |
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| 07:10 | <Dubstar_04> | he only wants advice |
| 07:11 | <^mICK> | possible to ask question about a problem with livetv in myth here? or is that only in mythtv-users too? |
| 07:11 | <laga> | mythtv-users only |
| 07:12 | <justinh> | I'm not a UI expert. I made some lame themes which were allegedly popular |
| 07:13 | <laga> | justinh: what's the status on glass-wide? would you like to have an update for intrepid? |
| 07:13 | <justinh> | I dunno if any of it works with trunk yet |
| 07:13 | <Dubstar_04> | justinh: modest too |
| 07:14 | <laga> | justinh: intrepid has 0.21 |
| 07:14 | <justinh> | really? playing it safe eh |
| 07:15 | <laga> | of course. 0.22 would be insane, intrepid will be released next month :) |
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| 07:16 | <justinh> | that soon? oof |
| 07:16 | <justinh> | well, gw is prolly in better shape now that it was when I originally curled it out |
| 07:16 | <laga> | yeah. so we can either: a) ship a new release of glass-wide b) cherry-pick the fixes c) don't do anything at all |
| 07:18 | <justinh> | why can't people ask me such questions when I'm not feeling quite so misanthropic? |
| 07:18 | <laga> | i can ask you again tonight. |
| 07:20 | <justinh> | would there be a deadline for it being 'ready' ? |
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| 07:21 | <laga> | intrepid is in feature freeze right now.. but a theme package falls under "artwork", and the UI freeze happens at September 11th |
| 07:22 | <laga> | ah, actually, the first artwork deadline is over, there's a second one at that date. but there are always exceptions |
| 07:22 | <gbee> | seems like Hardy was released just the other week ... disappointing that the last six months have gone so quickly |
| 07:23 | <laga> | yeah |
| 07:23 | <justinh> | laga: might aswell just do a tarball now. if I find anything serious I can update it - but like I told you the other day I've been using it every day (ui.xml parts anyway) without issues/niggles |
| 07:24 | <gbee> | guess I should brush up metallurgy, any chance of it going in if I include license details? |
| 07:24 | <justinh> | oh yeah my themeinfo.xml is all bollcocks |
| 07:24 | <justinh> | but then they all are (of mine) |
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| 07:26 | <laga> | gbee: probably. if i fight for it a bit.. |
| 07:26 | <gbee> | laga: well don't go to any trouble |
| 07:27 | <laga> | if you want it included, we can make it happen :) |
| 07:28 | <gbee> | might just reach a wider audience, I think it gets overlooked otherwise |
| 07:28 | <justinh> | sooner or later I'm going to be cured of wanting an audience |
| 07:28 | <laga> | gbee: btw, consider yourself poked. i can also create the xmltv config path patch, we should just discuss what should be changed |
| 07:28 | <gbee> | heh |
| 07:29 | <justinh> | ugh why did I even bother with a weather-ui.xml |
| 07:30 | <gbee> | laga: yeah, I know :( If you can create the patch that would be great, it should be really simple but I just can't find the time and motivation |
| 07:30 | <justinh> | laga: not sure this is gonna happen tbh. needs serious checking & I haven't really got the time |
| 07:30 | <justinh> | damn things. release them & they become a bloody millstone around your neck |
| 07:31 | <gbee> | maybe anonymity is the way to go |
| 07:32 | <justinh> | well, this weather-ui.xml is copied from somewhere else. nothing to do with me, so it ain't going in |
| 07:34 | <gbee> | want to fix metallurgy for me ;) |
| 07:34 | <gbee> | > |
| 07:34 | <gbee> | ? |
| 07:35 | <justinh> | how's it broken? |
| 07:36 | <gbee> | well broken is an exaggeration, there is a layout problem in mythmusic in the multi-bin mode, the listarea selected/unselected backgrounds need more contrast and there are some missing icons |
| 07:36 | <laga> | justinh: well, what needs checking? |
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| 07:37 | <gbee> | guess it shouldn't take more than an hour to sort those issues and draw a couple of extra icons |
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| 07:37 | <justinh> | gbee: the problem with mythmusic IS the multi-bin mode IMHO |
| 07:37 | <gbee> | justinh: well I'll agree with that ;) |
| 07:38 | <gbee> | new tree should be a vast improvement |
| 07:38 | <justinh> | waste of screen |
| 07:38 | <justinh> | oo you doing a new tree? variable width columns n stuff? |
| 07:38 | <gbee> | new tree yeah, but I see it being used a little differently |
| 07:39 | <justinh> | even more like a file browser would be an improvement on what there is now in that treelist thing |
| 07:39 | <gbee> | no variable width columns, they don't make sense since each column will hold the same info, instead it splits the given area equally between a given number of columns |
| 07:40 | <gbee> | but each column is a buttonlist2, you define the buttonlist once and it's used for each 'bin', so tree entries can have images etc |
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| 07:41 | <gbee> | generally it's based around a vertical layout since I can't see alternative layouts being much use |
| 07:42 | <justinh> | can't visualise it. I'll take almost anything over managedtreelist though |
| 07:42 | <gbee> | I'll have a screenshot by tonight maybe, just finish it up now |
| 07:43 | <laga> | gbee: okay, do you want your theme in or not? it'll at least need licensing information |
| 07:43 | <gbee> | there will be other layouts in mythmusic which don't use the tree |
| 07:44 | <gbee> | laga: sure, does someone have a boilerplate GPL2 license thingy I can just copy? |
| 07:44 | <laga> | gbee: i'd hope your linux distro comes with a copy of the GPL |
| 07:45 | <laga> | why not "gpl2 or later"? |
| 07:45 | <stuarta> | gbee: there will be one on the fsf website |
| 07:46 | <gbee> | laga: gpl2 or later, I really don't care :) |
| 07:46 | <gbee> | laga: sure it does, guess I could just grep for it |
| 07:47 | <laga> | GPL isn't really suitable for artwork, but you're probably bound by previous licensing |
| 07:49 | <justinh> | even CC didn't stop somebody nicking my images without attribution so I figured wtf is the point? just give the buggers away. I know where they're from |
| 07:50 | <laga> | i hope you're not talking about files you didn't create ;) |
| 07:50 | <justinh> | heh |
| 07:50 | <gbee> | laga: all original artwork |
| 07:51 | <justinh> | glass-wide is all original too |
| 07:51 | <laga> | nice |
| 07:51 | <justinh> | not all drawn in linux though, which will be too much for some to bear I know :P |
| 07:51 | <gbee> | if someone wants to suggest a license then, I'm not really familiar enough with the various terms and suitability |
| 07:52 | <justinh> | creative commons is a good one for artwork |
| 07:52 | <justinh> | but it's not very ubuntu-friendly |
| 07:52 | <Dubstar_04> | justinh: not again? |
| 07:53 | <gbee> | I'd probably actually prefer a license which allows distribution but prevents people modifying artwork - but that's hardly the right spirit - so I'll go with whatever people want |
| 07:53 | <laga> | it'll have to live in multiverse anyways due to the dependency on mythtv. i'm not a licensing guru, CC has lots of different licenses. just pick one you like |
| 07:53 | <laga> | gbee: maybe you'd like a license where people can modify artwork, but have to choose a different name. maybe CC can do something like that |
| 07:54 | <justinh> | gbee: that'd be creative commons, no derivatives |
| 07:54 | <gbee> | just don't want people to be lazy, it's not so much minding that people re-use my work as seeing people changing one element are re-releasing it as a new theme - that's just damaging to MythTV in the long term |
| 07:54 | <justinh> | I was once concerned about association - i.e. people reusing my stuff in projects that were far from worthy |
| 07:55 | <laga> | freedom (for bits and bytes) comes with a price :) |
| 07:55 | <justinh> | downloading a movie poster, leeching icons from XBMC & calling it theme? |
| 07:56 | <laga> | well, that's probably non-redistributable anyways |
| 07:56 | <laga> | as a theme "developer", i'd probably distribute that as a shell script which applies the changes :) |
| 07:59 | <justinh> | I just want all my old work to disappear. as quickly as possible |
| 08:13 | <gbee> | ok the license is sorted, just fixing the contrast issue and the missing icons - will have an updated version uploaded in about 30 minutes |
| 08:14 | <gbee> | fixing the contrast isn't easy though since those screens are mythui in trunk so I can't actually see what I'm doing ;0 |
| 08:14 | <laga> | oh :/ |
| 08:14 | <laga> | no VM with 0.21 handy? |
| 08:14 | <laga> | you could boot a live disk in a VM. |
| 08:21 | <gbee> | it's ok, I'll work it out |
| 08:21 | <gbee> | was mythcontrols converted to mythui before 0.21 was released? |
| 08:26 | <justinh> | I think it was. didn't you do it? |
| 08:29 | <gbee> | I converted it, I just can't remember whether it was before or after |
| 08:29 | <laga> | mythcontrols looks pretty mythui-ish here |
| 08:29 | <Dubstar_04> | I'm still having troubles with controlling widget focus via keypresses |
| 08:29 | <Dubstar_04> | http://paste.ubuntu.com/41215/ |
| 08:30 | <Dubstar_04> | I don't know what to put for MoveUp() or MoveDown() functions |
| 08:31 | <justinh> | 2052A7DD |
| 08:31 | <justinh> | oops |
| 08:32 | <justinh> | Dubstar_04: so you're saying you don't know how your program will work? |
| 08:32 | <Dubstar_04> | I dont know how to make it move up or down one widget |
| 08:32 | <janneg> | gbee: around April so after 0.21 |
| 08:34 | <janneg> | but started in January |
| 08:34 | <janneg> | so it's partly converted |
| 08:35 | <gbee> | hmm, no idea whether the mythui version of the mythcontrols theme in metallurgy will work then |
| 08:36 | <Dubstar_04> | How do I change focus to a widget directly below the current widget? |
| 08:36 | <gbee> | Dubstar_04: simply put you can't ... it will only move in widget order |
| 08:37 | <gbee> | you can get around that by making the calculator buttons use mythuibuttonlist |
| 08:38 | <Dubstar_04> | is there any docs for mythuibuttonlist? |
| 08:38 | <gbee> | some, not much - mythgallery might tell you more |
| 08:39 | <Dubstar_04> | or is there a way to move to a certain button? |
| 08:39 | <gbee> | hang on I'll get a link to what little documentation does exist |
| 08:39 | <Dubstar_04> | Thanks |
| 08:39 | <gbee> | Dubstar_04: yeah, SetFocusWidget() |
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| 08:39 | <Dubstar_04> | ok that might work |
| 08:42 | <gbee> | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythUI_Widgets |
| 08:48 | <gbee> | Dubstar_04: just added a new example to that page, the image grid one - copy that but replace the imagetype with a textarea called "buttontext" - http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythUI_Widgets#Examples |
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| 09:01 | <Dubstar_04> | gbee: How do I declare buttons to become part of the mythuibuttonlist? |
| 09:04 | <gbee> | new MythUIButtonListItem(m_buttonlist, "Text"); |
| 09:04 | <gbee> | where m_buttonlist is the mythuibuttonlist |
| 09:05 | <Dubstar_04> | Thank you |
| 09:05 | <gbee> | MythUIButtonListItem takes a few other arguments, e.g. foreground images, but the above will probably be enough for what you are doing right now |
| 09:06 | <gbee> | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Image:Mythui_buttonlist2.png |
| 09:06 | <gbee> | example of grid layout button list |
| 09:07 | <gbee> | well can't fix the multibin problem in metallurgy as it's a bug in the code and I've no intention of doing any work on the old stuff |
| 09:08 | <justinh> | gbee: I'll have a look later. might be able to work around it |
| 09:09 | <gbee> | I really need some additional icons, but don't really have time to work on them |
| 09:09 | <justinh> | which ones? |
| 09:10 | <justinh> | oh yeah this reminds me actually |
| 09:10 | <justinh> | I was meaning to ask today about the possibility of storing image sources in svn |
| 09:18 | <gbee> | justinh: I intend doing that for the default images, the SVG(s), when I'm finished |
| 09:18 | <gbee> | but I'm not sure where it will go yet |
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| 09:32 | <gbee> | justinh: looks like some of the core themes might be missing watermarks for MUSIC_IMPORT among others |
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| 09:36 | <justinh> | ugh |
| 09:37 | <justinh> | the ones based on existing GPL icons I can deal with |
| 09:37 | <justinh> | others might have to be cobbled |
| 09:39 | <gbee> | and lots of ARCHIVE_* ones ..., VIDEO_GALLERY |
| 09:40 | <gbee> | justinh: I'd just re-use existing watermarks, a bit of repetition is better than nothing |
| 09:40 | <gbee> | or of course you could wait for 0.22 and then the DEFAULT stuff will do the job |
| 09:40 | <justinh> | I'll have a look later |
| 09:41 | <justinh> | but then nobody has reported seeing gaps so is there even a rush? |
| 09:46 | <gbee> | no rush, not even that bothered but just thought I'd mention it in case you wanted to take a look |
| 09:47 | <justinh> | I thought I'd tackled most of the missing images a while back |
| 09:47 | <gbee> | MythArchive has overdone the menu entries, couldn't all this have been done from within the app? |
| 09:47 | <justinh> | I'm not speaking to MythArchive |
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| 10:15 | <gbee> | laga: http://miffteevee.co.uk/themes/metallurgy.html |
| 10:16 | <gbee> | if it helps convince anyone, it's been out and relatively unchanged for at least 8 months |
| 10:16 | <gbee> | but I'll understand if it doesn't make the cut |
| 10:17 | <laga> | it'll make the cut, don't worry |
| 10:17 | <justinh> | gbee: get many hits from the wiki link still? |
| 10:17 | <laga> | i've already talked to $people |
| 10:18 | <laga> | i'll only include the blue icon theme, tho |
| 10:19 | <justinh> | people can get the others by themselves :) |
| 10:19 | <laga> | that's not exactly the point of packaging ;) |
| 10:19 | <justinh> | oh yeh it'd be terrible having people find out how to untar stuff by themselves ;) |
| 10:20 | <gbee> | justinh: no idea, haven't looked at the logs at all |
| 10:20 | <laga> | i'll make a package later, got some school stuff to do now |
| 10:20 | <justinh> | oh how I don;t miss emails of 'how to install your feem?' |
| 10:20 | <gbee> | actually haven't had many emails and none at all in the last couple of months |
| 10:21 | <gbee> | only a couple of contributions |
| 10:21 | <gbee> | it's not exactly going to pay my way to LinuxTag next year ;) |
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| 10:22 | <justinh> | donations for my crap never amounted to enough to pay for a flight either |
| 10:22 | <justinh> | unless you count one-way trips |
| 10:22 | <gbee> | hehe - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/28/steve_jobs_obit/ |
| 10:22 | <Dubstar_04> | gbee: doe this look correct? http://paste.ubuntu.com/41259/ |
| 10:24 | <gbee> | does it work I guess is the question? I can't see anything immediately wrong |
| 10:25 | <gbee> | I'd probably drop the <imagetype> in the selected state |
| 10:25 | <Dubstar_04> | it gives me a green square, with a one in the top left corner. thats it! |
| 10:25 | <gbee> | oh and change the buttontext imagetype to <textarea> |
| 10:27 | <gbee> | http://paste.ubuntu.com/41263/ |
| 10:28 | <gbee> | something closer to that, you probably want a larger font, or smaller buttons and then tweak the areas to give you three buttons per row etc |
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| 10:31 | <Dubstar_04> | gbee: Im still just getting "1" in a green square and if i press left mythfrontend crashes |
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| 10:46 | <gbee> | http://paste.ubuntu.com/41268/ |
| 10:46 | <gbee> | what version of trunk? |
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| 10:49 | <Dubstar_04> | gbee: that looks better. I now have 3 buttons across the screen. nice |
| 10:51 | <gbee> | I'd go with a smaller button size, better background images for the button and increase the height in the <area> from 300 |
| 10:51 | <gbee> | that should get all your buttons on screen |
| 10:52 | <Dubstar_04> | gbee: your unreal. massive thank you... |
| 10:52 | <justinh> | I still want to have a stab at a sudoku plugin |
| 10:52 | <Dubstar_04> | whoa you might be treading my toes abit there!! |
| 10:52 | <stuarta> | hah! |
| 10:52 | <stuarta> | there must be an algorithm to generate them |
| 10:52 | <justinh> | yeah loads of em |
| 10:53 | <justinh> | take yer pick |
| 10:53 | <gbee> | account for <spacing> in <area>, so with 50x50 buttons and 10 spacing, you need an area of at least 180 to display three buttons |
| 10:53 | <stuarta> | probably made it's way into comp-sci-101 by now |
| 10:53 | <laga> | justinh: please add a define: GENERATE_UNSOLVABLE_SUDOKUS |
| 10:53 | <justinh> | I was going to nick VDR's |
| 10:54 | <justinh> | laga: I thought that was just for Solitaire |
| 10:54 | <stuarta> | we'll have to turn that on at all times :) |
| 10:54 | <laga> | heh. |
| 10:55 | <gbee> | it has to be intelligent enough to allow multiple solutions |
| 10:55 | <laga> | USE="extrafun" emerge mythtv ;) |
| 10:55 | <justinh> | maybe I'll just confine my coding to looking at what can be done to rearrange the popup menus (investigative only) |
| 10:56 | <gbee> | I've solved a few where my solution didn't match the one given, but was valid all the same |
| 10:56 | <justinh> | gbee: wouldn't matter, so long as the checker algo verifies it |
| 10:57 | <justinh> | or maybe the generator code is smart enough to only allow one solution |
| 10:57 | <gbee> | justinh: that's what I'm saying, it would have to be that versus generating a game (and solution) then just matching the squares |
| 10:58 | <justinh> | yeah I'd not even considered the latter option |
| 10:58 | <gbee> | personally I'm hooked on KAtomic right now, although it won't last long as I'm halfway through the levels since the start of the week |
| 10:58 | <gbee> | cool |
| 10:59 | <iamlindoro__> | That would be a neat social experiment-- release a solitaire or sudoku game and say that it is "only for advanced players," but make it generate only unsolvable puzzles |
| 10:59 | <laga> | iamlindoro__: and see how many people claim to have solved it? |
| 10:59 | <iamlindoro__> | then see how long it takes for people to start a) wasting hours on it and b) claiming on the internet that they beat it |
| 10:59 | <justinh> | iamlindoro__: aka you thought you got hate email before... |
| 10:59 | <iamlindoro__> | exactly :) |
| 10:59 | <gbee> | iamlindoro__: you'll have people sobbing ;) |
| 11:00 | <janneg> | or how long it takes until the first proves that it is unsolveable |
| 11:00 | <laga> | iamlindoro__: we had some unsolvable sudokus (on purpose) in our student magazine.. never heard complaints as we left the school soon after |
| 11:00 | <iamlindoro__> | laga: hehe |
| 11:01 | <gbee> | works better if you announce winners each week, that way people who come to the conclusion that they are unsolvable will start to doubt themselves |
| 11:02 | <laga> | hahaha |
| 11:03 | <stuarta> | last weeks winner was "D. Duck" |
| 11:03 | <gbee> | Ivor Clue |
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| 12:01 | <Dubstar_04> | how do you access the value of a button in a MythUIButtonList? |
| 12:01 | <Dubstar_04> | sorry access the text value |
| 12:04 | <Dubstar_04> | Will this work? MythUIButtonList *button = dynamic_cast<MythUIButtonList *> (GetFocusWidget()); |
| 12:04 | <gbee> | connect the itemClicked signal which contains the item, MythUIButtonListItem - hang on I'll pastebin an example |
| 12:07 | <gbee> | going to take a minute because my right arm is still swelling - discovered two more bites and I'm now dosed up on antihistamines and paracetamol |
| 12:07 | <gbee> | that's what I get for working on the allotment last night :( |
| 12:10 | <gbee> | Dubstar_04: http://paste.ubuntu.com/41283/ |
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| 12:35 | <teprrr> | btw, is there doxygenized api available online for libmyth*? |
| 12:36 | <danielk22> | http://www.cuymedia.net/mythtv-trunk/ |
| 12:36 | <teprrr> | yay, thanks |
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| 12:46 | <gbee> | not that the documentation is complete, but it's better than a kick in the teeth |
| 12:46 | <gbee> | vowed I was going to document mythui as I worked on it, but it's not as thorough as I first planned |
| 12:51 | <teprrr> | yup, it's way more easier than do grepping around anyway :) |
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| 13:18 | <Dubstar_04> | Last one for today!!! |
| 13:18 | <Dubstar_04> | http://paste.ubuntu.com/41300/ |
| 13:19 | <Dubstar_04> | regardless of which button i press it runs the number clicked function!! |
| 13:25 | <teprrr> | Dubstar_04, c++/c doesn't work that way |
| 13:25 | <Dubstar_04> | Ummm? |
| 13:25 | <teprrr> | you have to explicitly use the comparison for each value |
| 13:25 | <teprrr> | better use switch-case I think.. just a minute, I'll show you |
| 13:25 | <Dubstar_04> | Ah so if (x = "1") |
| 13:26 | <teprrr> | no, that's assignment |
| 13:26 | <teprrr> | btw, where have you defined button_value? is it QString? |
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| 13:27 | <Dubstar_04> | sorry if (x == "1") |
| 13:27 | <Dubstar_04> | yeah its a QString |
| 13:27 | <Dubstar_04> | its defined in the .h file |
| 13:28 | <teprrr> | in this case I'd do something like this: http://pastebin.com/d6c64cc5e |
| 13:28 | <teprrr> | though if there are other buttons than -+= and those numbers, you may need to refine it :P |
| 13:28 | <Dubstar_04> | Ah! Ok thanks |
| 13:29 | <teprrr> | the last one could be else if too.. else if( button_value.data()->isDigit() ) NumberClicked(); |
| 13:30 | <teprrr> | (assuming that button_value isn't a pointer) |
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| 13:33 | <Dubstar_04> | teprrr: thats sorted it. Thanks |
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| 13:35 | <teprrr> | yay :) |
| 13:44 | <Dubstar_04> | I've made my first plugin!!!! |
| 13:45 | <teprrr> | congrats |
| 13:46 | <Dubstar_04> | I've only being learning QT and C++ 2 weeks!! |
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| 14:14 | <gbee> | Dubstar_04: nice, now could you go tell all the whiners on the -user list who want features but won't learn C++ because it's too hard or they don't have the time? :D |
| 14:20 | <Dubstar_04> | Ha ha |
| 14:20 | <Dubstar_04> | I am going to make a proper tutorial with Myth Calculator |
| 14:21 | <Dubstar_04> | It should be done by the weekend |
| 14:21 | <gbee> | great :) |
| 14:22 | <Dubstar_04> | gbee: Thanks for all your help and patience. |
| 14:27 | <Dubstar_04> | Is there anyway to define a background image for the MythUITextEdit ? |
| 14:32 | <gbee> | yes, see mythtv/themes/default/base.xml or just add <textedit name="foobar" from="basetextedit"> |
| 14:33 | <justinh> | I've been saying for ages how it's surprisingly easy but nobody ever listens |
| 14:33 | <teprrr> | Dubstar_04, in codewise, setBackgroundImage()? |
| 14:33 | <justinh> | ok so a lot of stuff is comparatively easy to grasp but some isn't - but that sort of stuff (video playback etc) isn't for mere mortals |
| 14:33 | <teprrr> | http://www.cuymedia.net/mythtv-trunk/classMythUITextEdit.html#5320a65c51258ca1576e42d2847748cc |
| 14:36 | <gbee> | teprrr: wouldn't really on things like setBackgroundImage() remaining in the public API - I've been considering removing them to prevent people getting lazy and hardcoding stuff which belongs in the theme |
| 14:38 | <justinh> | looking fwd to saying byebye to hardcoded stuff :) |
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| 14:39 | <justinh> | Dubstar_04: anyhow.. feels good doesn't it? probably as little hassle as learning python would've been too I'd wager |
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| 14:40 | <justinh> | and it's not as if you have to wait ages for stuff to compile in most cases either, so bang goes that argument too :) |
| 14:41 | <Dubstar_04> | Yeah it feels really good. I can make all the plugins i have ever wanted now!! |
| 14:42 | <justinh> | well almost |
| 14:42 | <Dubstar_04> | The only reason I started learning was to make something like mythtube |
| 14:42 | <justinh> | main thing is you won't be getting put off by the "woooooo SCARY"-ness of c++ |
| 14:45 | <teprrr> | gbee, yup, that sounds good. perhaps setting those as virtual protecteds, so one can still force to use specific background if reimplementing the function |
| 14:46 | <teprrr> | imho the less change a plugin devel has to mess with the ui the better :) |
| 14:47 | <teprrr> | s/has to mess with/can mess with/ of course |
| 14:54 | <gbee> | protected is actually what I meant, at least for the most part - there shouldn't be any need to re-implement any of those widgets once we're finished - what we want to avoid this time is creating more and more widgets |
| 14:55 | <gbee> | if the widget doesn't do what you want, add the functionality instead of creating yet another widget which might only be used once |
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| 14:56 | <justinh> | amen to that |
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| 15:41 | <gbee_> | danielk22: are we wiping or otherwise modifying mplex data prior to scanning, so that when a scan fails we end up with broken information? This is in -fixes? |
| 15:41 | <gbee_> | a rescan failed due to timeouts and now at least the symbolrates in the db are zero making scanning/tuning impossible |
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| 15:44 | <danielk22> | gbee: I'm not very knowledgable on the DVB side of things, the guy that wrote most of it left the project a few years back. I've just maintained it with whatever testers I could scrounge up. |
| 15:46 | <gbee_> | ok, maybe I should take a look - right now my db is completely screwed which shouldn't be happening in -fixes |
| 15:51 | <danielk22> | did you use taskset -c 0 ? |
| 15:52 | <gbee_> | no |
| 15:52 | <danielk22> | that's the only way to get the old scanner to give halfway decent results unless you go back to Qt 3.1 or so |
| 15:52 | <gbee_> | right, symbolrate on those mplex's has been set to NULL - lets see if I can find the correct values without having to rescan |
| 15:54 | <gbee_> | ahh, every other field has been set to NULL ... guess I _have_ to wipe and start again |
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| 16:00 | <danielk22> | The new scanner separates out scanning and insertion/update so it should be possible to make this sort of wipe behaviour impossible in that code. |
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| 16:10 | <gbee_> | danielk22: that's good to hear |
| 16:13 | <gbee_> | little irritated because I was just trying to pick up channel updates and instead I'm spending the evening rescanning and reconfiguring all my channels :) |
| 16:14 | <gbee_> | no-ones fault, but these are the sorts of events that motivate me to find the problem and fix it before it affects others (or me again) |
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| 16:24 | <Mersault> | I'm building a new HD frontend, and I'm looking for advice for hardware. Ideally, I'd like to have HDMI with audio going to my TV, so something like the ASUS Xonar HDAV interests me a lot. |
| 16:24 | <Mersault> | Has anyone used this card, or have other suggestions for an HD frontend? |
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| 16:32 | <gbee_> | Mersault: #mythtv-users |
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| 16:50 | <Rajpoot> | does mythtv work with webcams? |
| 16:55 | <justinh> | wrong channel. see #mythtv-users |
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| 17:18 | <laga> | justinh: you changed the license for glass-wide. is that correct? |
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| 18:05 | <gbee> | laga: I think it's now http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/ ;) |
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| 18:36 | <gbee> | Chutt: MythCommandLineParser wasn't completed? |
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| 19:03 | <Chutt> | no idea, not my code |
| 19:09 | <gbee> | oh, for some reason I though it was, sorry |
| 19:09 | <danielk22> | gbee: I have at least one more patch for it, but what is already committed should have worked. |
| 19:09 | <gbee> | danielk22: well it works, it just isn't fully utilised, e.g. mythfrontend still handles --help itself |
| 19:10 | <danielk22> | yeah, it's too big a job to do in one fell swoop. |
| 19:10 | <gbee> | since I need to move --help to occur earlier, before mfe looks for X, I thought I'd at least complete that bit but I didn't want to be duplicating work |
| 19:11 | <gbee> | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5655 - Invalid? |
| 19:11 | <danielk22> | don't worry about that |
| 19:12 | <danielk22> | 5655 is missing 95% of the needed logs, prolly a info needed rather than invalid. |
| 19:13 | <danielk22> | definately not a blocker, it hasn't even been verified, and would at most be major. |
| 19:13 | <gbee> | ok, wondered if the multiproto patch was to blame |
| 19:13 | <danielk22> | oh, yeah, invalid, |
| 19:14 | <danielk22> | sorry missed the first part where he said he applied 3rd party patches. |
| 19:14 | <gbee> | :) |
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| 22:23 | <Chutt> | how stable's trunk? |
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| 23:14 | <clever> | Chutt: my master backend abort()'s every time it trys to switch channels with back2back shows |
| 23:14 | <clever> | ive 'fixed' it by returning the frame grabber to work on a slave |
| 23:16 | <iamlindoro> | clever, *your* myth install is so tweaked that it in no way represents *actual* trunk |
| 23:17 | <clever> | i dont see how any of my patches are causing the problem |
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| 23:19 | <clever> | my changes to NuppelVideoPlayer.cpp should have no effect on RECORDING |
| 23:19 | <clever> | same for tv_play.cpp |
| 23:20 | <clever> | and videoout_xv.cpp |
| 23:20 | <clever> | the one in mythcontext.cpp i beleive i got out of trac |
| 23:20 | <iamlindoro> | Your entire filesystem should be left read-only for your own good |
| 23:20 | <clever> | httprequest.cpp is simply patched to be more verbose |
| 23:21 | <iamlindoro> | chmod -R -rw / && passwd root |
| 23:21 | <iamlindoro> | then mash some keys so you don't know what you typed |
| 23:28 | <GreyFoxx> | passwd -l root |
| 23:29 | <GreyFoxx> | then logout |
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| 23:37 | <clever_> | [28 22:18:26] <iamlindoro> Your entire filesystem should be left read-only for your own good |
| 23:37 | <clever_> | [28 22:18:42] <clever> httprequest.cpp is simply patched to be more verbose |
| 23:37 | <clever_> | [28 22:19:41] <clever> nope, none of the 'svn diff' should have any effect on recording things |
| 23:37 | <clever_> | [28 22:29:21] <clever> though if it will make you feel better i could compile without it and show you that it still crashes:P |
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| 23:48 | <iamlindoro> | On that note, though, I've got trunk running unmodified and haven't had a backend crash in many many weeks |
| 23:49 | <iamlindoro> | occasional Frontend crash on in-progress recordings, but that has improved drastically in recent weeks, too |
| 23:50 | <clever_> | do you have any back2back recordings on the same card? |
| 23:50 | <clever_> | mine was sometimes going days without crashing |
| 23:51 | <clever_> | depending on the schedules and number of cards it could go weeks |
| 23:51 | <iamlindoro> | yes, often |
| 23:51 | <iamlindoro> | at least three a day |
| 23:51 | <iamlindoro> | Daily Show/Colbert |
| 23:51 | <clever_> | by readding my framegrabber i was able to solve the back2back recordings |
| 23:51 | <iamlindoro> | Cops/Cops |
| 23:52 | <clever_> | digital or analog card? |
| 23:52 | <iamlindoro> | both |
| 23:53 | <clever_> | are you recording 2 shows back2back on the same analog card? |
| 23:54 | <iamlindoro> | yes, once again |
| 23:54 | <clever_> | just making shure |
| 23:54 | <clever_> | what revision? |
| 23:56 | <iamlindoro> | 18129, but gotta go |
| 23:57 | <clever_> | kk |
| 23:57 | <clever_> | i'll try to force it to crash more |
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