| --- | Log | opened Wed Sep 17 00:00:12 2008 |
| --- | Day | changed Wed Sep 17 2008 |
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| 06:49 | <assasd> | Hello |
| 06:53 | <assasd> | I've have a little question. I want to make the " Recording XX" message in livetv to stay for the duration of the show . I have managed to do so but the problem is that every time another message/menu appears the text disappear .Is there any way to make the message stay even when the menu change? |
| 06:53 | <assasd> | I've=I |
| 06:53 | <stuarta> | please read the topic |
| 06:54 | <assasd> | Well it is about development to mythtv |
| 06:54 | <assasd> | sorry if its the wrong room though I'll try the other one |
| 07:03 | <gbee> | right room, but it might be something you have to figure out for yourself |
| 07:04 | <gbee> | I couldn't suggest a solution without referring back to the code, it's been too long since I did any work on or near the OSD - I think the same is true for everyone else |
| 07:05 | <assasd> | I can run a Isrecording check in the main LiveTV loop but that wouldn't be efficient |
| 07:07 | <gbee> | the solution is probably going to be in the OSD code itself, you need to prevent that container being hidden from view |
| 07:07 | <assasd> | This wouldn't fix all the problems |
| 07:08 | <assasd> | cause if a user will go to the Tvguide while recording a livetv show the message will not be displayed after the user exit the TV guide |
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| 07:11 | <gbee> | right |
| 07:15 | <assasd> | I'll try and do that in the main loop of the livetv though I am not really happy about it |
| 07:16 | <assasd> | I should also send an email to the mailing list as this is feature that the normal user may want |
| 07:19 | <assasd> | OK I am off for a short while ( need to reinstall my PVR150 on my test machine |
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| 07:23 | <gbee> | it might be something that gets added as an option when the OSD code is re-written sometime in the next year |
| 07:27 | <laga> | gbee: *poke* ;) |
| 07:28 | <gbee> | laga: doing it right now |
| 07:30 | <laga> | haha, great :) |
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| 07:37 | <gbee> | -fixes patch committed, will sort the trunk one in a few hours |
| 07:37 | <laga> | yay |
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| 07:55 | <dramman> | dmesg is showing "cx88[0]: irq mpeg [0x80000] pci_abort* |
| 07:55 | <dramman> | cx88[0]/2-mpeg: general errors: 0x00080000 |
| 07:56 | <stuarta> | mine does that too. i ignore it (btw. this is a users question |
| 07:56 | <stuarta> | ) |
| 07:57 | <dramman> | hmm, thanks |
| 07:58 | <dramman> | I'm not even watching/recording while it's doing that. |
| 07:59 | <dramman> | I should probably configure the shutdown script... |
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| 12:40 | <j-rod> | speaking of -fixes... new x264 horks mythtv 0.21 builds... |
| 12:40 | * | j-rod hasn't investibigated at all, just noticed the latest rpmfusion x264 busts rpmfusion mythtv builds |
| 12:41 | <laga> | do you use libh264? or whatever it's called |
| 12:41 | <j-rod> | libx264, yeah |
| 12:42 | <laga> | is that actually necessary? it's not necessary for decoding AFAIK |
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| 12:42 | <j-rod> | honestly not sure what its needed for |
| 12:43 | <laga> | ubuntu has it too, but i believe it's unnecessary |
| 12:43 | <laga> | just an uneducated guess :) |
| 12:45 | <gbee> | it's not a required dep, I'm not even sure how any builds come to be using it? |
| 12:46 | <laga> | by looking around in configure i suppose |
| 12:47 | <gbee> | no wonder people complain about mythtv packages pulling in a heap of deps :D |
| 12:48 | * | j-rod hunts for build failure log... |
| 12:48 | <j-rod> | http://buildsys.rpmfusion.org/logs/fedora-development-rpmfusion_free/803-mythtv-0.21-10.fc10/i386/build.log |
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| 12:50 | <j-rod> | --enable-x264 flag I presume pulls it in for some reason |
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| 13:08 | <j-rod> | echo " --enable-libx264 enable H.264 encoding via x264 [default=no]" |
| 13:14 | <janneg> | j-rod: you don't need libx264, the --enable-x264 can be dropped from the build, only side effect is that the packet can loose the libx264 dependency |
| 13:14 | <janneg> | j-rod: and that shouldn't be present in the ./configure --help output |
| 13:14 | <j-rod> | janneg: ah, so it isn't |
| 13:15 | <j-rod> | ok, so just drop that option and the build dep |
| 13:15 | <j-rod> | worksforme |
| 13:22 | <janneg> | it's inherited from ffmpeg configure and "commented" with a redirection to ease merging |
| 13:22 | <janneg> | it's a pity that shell doesn't know multi line comments |
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| 13:29 | <j-rod> | janneg: so then, should everything in that same block not be enabled as well? |
| 13:29 | <j-rod> | such as libxvid, libtheora, libfaac, etc |
| 13:31 | <j-rod> | looks like it |
| 13:34 | <gbee> | aye |
| 13:34 | <janneg> | xvid and faac doesn't make sense, theora might if ffmpeg has no native decoder, libfaad should probably be enabled |
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| 13:36 | <janneg> | j-rod: decoding libraries should generally enabled if ffmpeg has no naitve decoder for that format. encoding externel libraries won't be used by mythtv |
| 13:37 | <j-rod> | janneg: gotcha. going to shove through a new build with some lighter-weight flags in just a sec... |
| 13:40 | <gbee> | claims experimental theora encoding/decoding support - not sure what that means in practice nor how long it's been there (i.e. 0.21?) |
| 13:42 | <gbee> | libfaad, but not libfaac (have we ever needed faac?) |
| 13:43 | <janneg> | maybe mythmusic for ripping |
| 13:44 | <gbee> | I'd have to check, but I doubt it, all the decoding done in mythmusic linked directly against the libs, it doesn't use libavcodec |
| 13:45 | <gbee> | I'm assuming the same is true for the encoding |
| 13:45 | <janneg> | but that would be most likely a separate dependency of mythmusic |
| 13:45 | <gbee> | yep |
| 13:46 | <gbee> | at least for the moment :D |
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| 16:25 | <Cardoe> | j-rod: what flags are being dropped on what? |
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| 16:26 | <octavsly> | Hi there |
| 16:26 | <octavsly> | I have a starbge proble with an HVR1110 |
| 16:27 | <j-rod> | Cardoe: fedora mythtv builds were pulling in a bunch of libraries that they shouldn't be |
| 16:27 | <octavsly> | I have spent two days understanding what i shappening but I don't know how to fix it |
| 16:27 | <octavsly> | Hmmm. Am I disturbing something? |
| 16:28 | <j-rod> | Cardoe: the configure line had a bunch of stuff enabled that has been commented out in ./configure --help |
| 16:28 | <j-rod> | commented out, because generally, the native ffmpeg variants of these {en,de}coders should be used |
| 16:28 | <Cardoe> | So I shouldn't be passing --enable-libx264? |
| 16:28 | <j-rod> | Cardoe: yep, so I'm told, anyway. :) |
| 16:29 | <octavsly> | Cardoe... gentoo guy ? Nice "meeting" you |
| 16:29 | <Cardoe> | and xvid and faac eh... |
| 16:30 | <Cardoe> | octavsly: howdy |
| 16:30 | <sphery> | octavsly: I think you want #mythtv-users for your question |
| 16:30 | <j-rod> | Cardoe: so I just dropped a52, mp3lame, faac, x264, vorbis and xvid off my %configure macro |
| 16:31 | <octavsly> | Yes and no. Let me tell you what the problem is, then I will go to the mythtv-users |
| 16:31 | <j-rod> | of course, never mind that the latest cdparanoia fucks over the build of mythmusic... |
| 16:31 | <Cardoe> | j-rod: myth does link to those libraries though... |
| 16:32 | <janneg> | Cardoe: only if they are enabled |
| 16:32 | <j-rod> | Cardoe: if you tell it to, it certainly does :) janneg can probably explain way better than I can |
| 16:32 | <Cardoe> | Well... it automagically links to them.. |
| 16:32 | <Cardoe> | at least some of them |
| 16:32 | <Cardoe> | We had this discussion a while back |
| 16:32 | <Cardoe> | when I added them as depends in Gentoo |
| 16:33 | <Cardoe> | since if you had them installed on your system.. it would automagically link to some of them |
| 16:33 | <j-rod> | ah yes, that would be problematic... |
| 16:33 | <janneg> | I don't think so, all external libraries are disabled by default, lame is the only exception |
| 16:34 | <Cardoe> | janneg: so you're saying I don't need to pass --enable-libmp3lame, it'll always do it anyway? |
| 16:34 | <sphery> | wouldn't it only link to them if you pass the --enable flags (that were commented in the myth configure) for them? |
| 16:35 | <Cardoe> | I'm building without right now and I'll be able to say for certain |
| 16:35 | <Cardoe> | sphery: you're on the gnome-lirc-properties project right? |
| 16:37 | <j-rod> | ah, g-l-p, the source of 3/4 of the patches in the fedora lirc userspace... |
| 16:38 | <Cardoe> | j-rod: why does lirc need so many patches for g-l-p? |
| 16:39 | <j-rod> | Cardoe: mostly infrastructure things -- the 'standardized key namespace' bits so most remotes Just Work, because they ultimately report the same key values |
| 16:40 | <Cardoe> | yeah that stuff is going to be nice |
| 16:40 | <j-rod> | also some config alterations so g-l-p can parse and/or configure things like driver as needed |
| 16:40 | <j-rod> | in /etc/sysconfig/lirc in the fedora case (and ubuntu/debian, iirc) |
| 16:43 | * | octavsly slaps sphery around with a small 50lb Unix Manual |
| 16:43 | <octavsly> | sorry wrong button |
| 16:46 | <sphery> | Cardoe: nope, not me. Perhaps some other sphery |
| 16:46 | <janneg> | Cardoe: lame is a mandatory dependency of mythtv |
| 16:46 | <janneg> | configure will fail if it doesn't find lame, --enable-libmp3lame is only for libavcodec |
| 16:47 | <Cardoe> | janneg: right but I don't need to pass that configure switch? |
| 16:47 | <janneg> | no, --enable-libmp3lame is not needed |
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| 16:50 | <Cardoe> | j-rod: I was trying to get g-l-p into Gentoo.. but it appears to require lircd 0.8.4... however there's no CVS snapshots that bill themselves as that and no releases by that version either.. |
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| 16:53 | <j-rod> | Cardoe: we're doing it for fedora 10 w/0.8.3 + patches |
| 16:53 | <j-rod> | Cardoe: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/lirc/devel/ |
| 16:54 | <Cardoe> | can you guys push out a tarball called 0.8.4-pre1? |
| 16:54 | <j-rod> | I was actually just talking to christoph about getting something out ASAP, before I start committing anything back from git |
| 16:55 | <j-rod> | he has yet to reply |
| 16:55 | <j-rod> | but I'd expect a 0.8.4 relatively soon, if not a -pre1 |
| 16:55 | <abqjp> | j-rod: using the fedora lirc patch works beautifully. Thanks. |
| 16:56 | <j-rod> | abqjp: cool, good to know. wonder what's horked in cvs though... :\ |
| 16:57 | <j-rod> | the git tree has, um, diverged quite rapidly |
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| 16:57 | <j-rod> | janneg: that reminds me, christoph actually pinged me about whether or not I still thought it was worth trying to put everything back into cvs, I said no |
| 16:58 | <superm1> | j-rod, everything in the git tree has diverged, but still is compatible as you had mentioned the other day, correct? |
| 16:58 | <Cardoe> | superm1: you're the g-l-p guy no? |
| 16:58 | <j-rod> | superm1: yeah, still works w/0.8.3 userspace just fine |
| 16:58 | <superm1> | Cardoe, i've provided some input on it, and helped get it into Ubuntu, but i didn't write it |
| 16:58 | <j-rod> | except in the irrecord + lirc_serial and the lirc_i2c cases |
| 16:59 | <superm1> | j-rod, for those cases, do you have patches to point at on top of 0.8.3 userspace? |
| 16:59 | <j-rod> | fixing lirc_i2c is on my todo list, but I have some fun crypto and netlink shit I have to fix first for work... :\ |
| 16:59 | <superm1> | or are they just "broke" right now? |
| 16:59 | <Cardoe> | j-rod: trying to get your lirc bits into Gentoo's kernel as well. |
| 16:59 | <j-rod> | superm1: just broke atm, but definitely high on the prio list for fixage |
| 16:59 | <Cardoe> | j-rod: you're still passing --enable-libfaad in your configure? |
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| 16:59 | <j-rod> | Cardoe: cool, thanks mucho |
| 16:59 | <high-rez> | damn all this talk about gentoo, i thought I was the only guy who was excited about waiting for things to compile. ;) |
| 17:00 | <superm1> | j-rod, ah okay. so long as it's just for irrecord though |
| 17:00 | <j-rod> | Cardoe: yes, still w/libfaad |
| 17:00 | <j-rod> | superm1: lirc_i2c is flat-out busted, doesn't receive, but I hope to have that fixed by the end of the week |
| 17:01 | <j-rod> | just a matter of some git bisection to do, it did work just a bit ago... |
| 17:01 | <superm1> | j-rod, okay well i'll keep any of this lirc stuff that i prepare in the ubuntu kernel tree from your git tree local until that's sorted |
| 17:01 | <superm1> | just in case something else comes up |
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| 17:01 | <j-rod> | ok, cool |
| 17:01 | <j-rod> | I should have commandir and imon hardware RSN for testing of those |
| 17:02 | <j-rod> | lirc_mceusb and lirc_mceusb2 are good to go |
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| 17:02 | <superm1> | you need commandir testing? it's supposed to be userspace now |
| 17:02 | <superm1> | (with the newer driver) |
| 17:03 | <superm1> | that driver is supposed to supersede the kernelspace one |
| 17:03 | <j-rod> | hm... which kernel one? |
| 17:03 | <j-rod> | there's lirc_cmdir.* and commandir.* in lirc cvs |
| 17:03 | <superm1> | okay then i'm going to poke the maintainer about those |
| 17:03 | <j-rod> | my understanding is that we do still need the resulting commandir.ko |
| 17:04 | <superm1> | it's supposed to be going away |
| 17:04 | <j-rod> | huh, ok |
| 17:04 | <j-rod> | I thought just lirc_cmdir was going to die |
| 17:04 | <superm1> | yeah he rewrote the entire driver to use userspace usb calls and both were supposed to die |
| 17:04 | <j-rod> | this is matthew bodkin you're talking about, no? |
| 17:05 | <superm1> | yeah |
| 17:05 | <j-rod> | hrm. his email to me from a week ago said "drop lirc_cmdir, include commandir", I thought... |
| 17:05 | <superm1> | maybe for compatibility with the older hardware? |
| 17:05 | <superm1> | i've only tested on the newer stuff |
| 17:05 | <j-rod> | could well be |
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| 17:06 | <j-rod> | he's on vacation this week, I'll ping him next week |
| 17:08 | <superm1> | at least for the testing packages i put together for him for the newer version i'm positive that i was blacklisting both. leave a note in #lirc when you find out what he says |
| 17:17 | <janneg> | Cardoe: --enable-libfaad should be enabled (iirc USE=faad is used) |
| 17:18 | <Cardoe> | janneg: I've got USE=aac but yeah |
| 17:18 | <gbee> | enabled by our configure, as the default? So it shouldn't be necessary to define it 'manually' ? |
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| 17:23 | <Cardoe> | gbee: the point is distros rarely want automagical depends |
| 17:24 | <gbee> | it's hardly automagical ... |
| 17:26 | <Cardoe> | if you have libfaad installed, it will link to it. |
| 17:26 | <Cardoe> | if you don't have it installed, it won't link to it. |
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| 17:28 | <gbee> | that's not what I'm talking about - I'm talking about our configure requiring libfaad by default and refusing to build without it, which is what it should do unless --disable-libfaad is used |
| 17:28 | <gbee> | I'm not saying that's the current behaviour, but that's what it should be doing |
| 17:28 | <Cardoe> | gbee: right. that'd I'd agree with |
| 17:30 | <gbee> | at no point should we be linking against libs 'automagically', I'm a little confused by that claim - even ffmpeg doesn't do that in my experience? |
| 17:31 | <gbee> | the configure script might automagically find installed libs, but it shouldn't be building with support for dynamic searching/linking at runtime |
| 17:31 | <gbee> | I'll defer to janneg on this subject though, he knows ffmpeg/configure far better than I do |
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| 17:32 | <gbee> | or maybe I'm just getting the wrong end of the stick ;) |
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| 17:36 | <Thunder-> | so, whos working on porting myth frontend to the new neuros osd2? :) |
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| 17:38 | <janneg> | well, "linking" at runtime with dlopen is not a problem for distros if it is optional functionality |
| 17:39 | <iamlindoro_> | Thunder-: Blech, all the acceleration/capture is only up to 1024x768 @ 6 Mbit |
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| 17:39 | <Thunder-> | iamlindoro_: thats ok, lock your hdpvr to 720p ;) |
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| 17:39 | <janneg> | dynamic linking to during build time to random libraries is a problem if the build enviroment has more libs than the runtime enviroment |
| 17:39 | <iamlindoro_> | Thunder-: at least the HD-PVR's 720p is 1280x720 and not 1024x768 |
| 17:40 | <gbee_confused> | Neuros may be doing it themselves ... |
| 17:40 | <iamlindoro_> | Thunder-: which is *still* too much for the OSD 2, and at a horribly bitrate no less |
| 17:40 | <iamlindoro_> | er horrible |
| 17:40 | <Thunder-> | iamlindoro_: hm the specs say it will do h.264 up to 720p @ 30fps decoding |
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| 17:40 | <iamlindoro_> | Thunder-: Go to the dev specs page on their wiki, it is *highly* limited |
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| 17:41 | <Thunder-> | iamlindoro_: damn. so there goes that idea of a nice fanless myth frontend for cheap |
| 17:41 | <iamlindoro_> | Thunder-: yeah, I was disappointed too :( |
| 17:41 | <Thunder-> | back to reverse engineering the linux distro that runs on the popcorn hour |
| 17:42 | <gbee> | Thunder-: well not necessarily, as I said, we've had a graphic artist, contracted by Neuros, mentioning something about concept work involving mythfrontend |
| 17:43 | <Thunder-> | gbee: right, but it wouldnt be able to play back hd stuff very well |
| 17:43 | <gbee> | if you want to speculate, that suggests they are considering a mythfrontend based device or similar |
| 17:43 | <iamlindoro_> | They themselves mentioned myth in their press info |
| 17:43 | * | Thunder- is all hdpvrs and hdhomerun |
| 17:43 | <iamlindoro_> | "Supplied with free "as in beer" codecs from TI that take advantage of the device's DSP (digital signal processor) core, the OSD2 can encode H.264 D1 resolution (DVD quality) video from an analog source, then upscale it for output at 1080i, or transcode it for viewing on a PMP (portable media player). "It could be a great $250 MythTV, recording video that looks great on a TV or an iPhone," Born said." |
| 17:43 | <gbee> | Thunder-: I assume if they are considering that then they are already thinking of solutions |
| 17:44 | <iamlindoro_> | Where Born == Neuros CEO |
| 17:44 | <janneg> | I think the beagleboard is supposed to playback at least 720p |
| 17:44 | <Thunder-> | yeah, but he is talking about it being for capture |
| 17:44 | <janneg> | neuros might use the same chipset |
| 17:45 | <iamlindoro_> | It is *so close* to being something really great, but the low capture resolution/bitrate is a killer for me |
| 17:45 | <Thunder-> | if only popcorn hour's firmware was open like neuros... bleeeh |
| 17:45 | <iamlindoro_> | 1024x768 is *technically* a flavor of 720p but It's not the one people actually care about |
| 17:46 | <iamlindoro_> | and 6 Mbit, even at 1024x768, is likely to look pretty painful |
| 17:47 | <iamlindoro_> | If one wanted to use it just as a capture device, however, and wasn't scared off by the bitrate/res, it looks like they have VLC running on it already, so you could do the old "VLC as IPTV" thing to use it as a tuner with Myth |
| 17:48 | <gbee> | not very pretty though |
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| 17:51 | <Thunder-> | supposedly popcorn hour is working on kexec support in their firmware, which would allow any linux kernel to run on it, which could lead to an awesome cheap myth frontend that can do 1080p h.264 etc |
| 17:51 | <high-rez> | ok wtf these libraries aren't strippbed but there are no debugging symbols :( |
| 17:55 | <laga> | Thunder-: once someone ports mythtv |
| 17:55 | <Thunder-> | laga: exactly ;) |
| 17:57 | <GreyFoxx> | Welll and even more important they would need to release info on the decoder chips |
| 17:57 | <GreyFoxx> | otherwise it wont be too useful :) |
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| 17:58 | <Thunder-> | GreyFoxx: once I can get strace and gdb running on it, it wont take long to figure that out |
| 17:58 | <Thunder-> | hehe |
| 17:59 | <iamlindoro_> | Thunder-: So that would allow one to take advantage of the hardware decode stuff as well? |
| 17:59 | <iamlindoro_> | oh, whoops, didn't read far enough |
| 17:59 | <Thunder-> | iamlindoro_: maybe. probably throuhg a binary only library |
| 17:59 | <iamlindoro_> | I could live with that, I'm not OSS picky :) |
| 18:00 | <Thunder-> | the video/dsp/thingy in the the popcorn hour will only run signed code, and I doubt they would give us source+crypto keys to talk to it directly |
| 18:01 | <iamlindoro_> | I can't recall, didn't one of the other DVRs have a port to the popcornhour? |
| 18:01 | <iamlindoro_> | Sage maybe, or Beyond? |
| 18:01 | <Thunder-> | but the thing will play anything you throw at it without breaking a sweat, even 1080p h.264 super high profile mkvs |
| 18:01 | <Thunder-> | not sage, sage has its own hd extender which is even better hardware wise |
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| 18:03 | <Thunder-> | iamlindoro_: i bet beyond just uses the old hauppauge mediamvp like everyone has done |
| 18:03 | <iamlindoro_> | Naw, whoever it was, this was specifically a port to the PCH |
| 18:03 | <iamlindoro_> | Just can't recall |
| 18:04 | <Thunder-> | interesting, id love to see that |
| 18:06 | <GreyFoxx> | If the popcorn hour could be made to run myth, and the internal player take advantage of the hardware decoders for the various common codecs I'd by one for my father |
| 18:06 | <GreyFoxx> | I'm was considering getting him one as a upnp player anyway |
| 18:06 | <Thunder-> | I bet a lot of people would |
| 18:06 | <iamlindoro_> | I'd buy one for *me* :) |
| 18:06 | <GreyFoxx> | If it worked well I'd get one for myself as well |
| 18:06 | <GreyFoxx> | heh |
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| 18:08 | <GreyFoxx> | my dad is currently using a dlink dsm320 in his living room and it kinda sucks :) |
| 18:08 | <GreyFoxx> | he wants another mythFE like he has for his basement :) |
| 18:11 | <Thunder-> | if hes not doing hd, you could always use a mediamvp + mvpmc |
| 18:11 | <Thunder-> | works great as a mythfe |
| 18:12 | <GreyFoxx> | he is doing hd, but currently I have myth transcode it down to something his dlink can handle |
| 18:12 | <GreyFoxx> | sold my mediamvp's a couple years ago to an excoworker who is using them :) |
| 18:12 | <Thunder-> | hehe |
| 18:13 | <GreyFoxx> | they were too limiting and when I switched to the msntv2's they were no longer used |
| 18:13 | <sphery> | Thunder-: did you see http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/349746#349746 (didn't actually read it, so it may be useless, but I just happened to remember it) |
| 18:13 | <GreyFoxx> | the popcorn hour would be perfect for him |
| 18:14 | <sphery> | janneg: I thought I saw that the beagle board had a 24fps limit at HDTV res's... |
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| 18:14 | <GreyFoxx> | the beagle board does look nifty and alrady runs myth :) |
| 18:17 | <Thunder-> | indeed, very |
| 18:22 | <high-rez> | oh what the hell the moment I get debugging symbols working the damned thing doesn't want to crash. pfft |
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| 18:31 | <clever> | most of my crashing is random so its hard to track down |
| 18:32 | <Thunder-> | debugging symbols + coredumps enabled no help? |
| 18:33 | <high-rez> | they seem to be hindering me now ;) |
| 18:33 | <high-rez> | as soon as I got a build I know I can get a good stack trace out of as soon as it core dumps... |
| 18:33 | <Thunder-> | that sticks of a race condition :( |
| 18:33 | <high-rez> | it doesn't want to core dump. |
| 18:33 | <Thunder-> | s/sticks/stinks/ |
| 18:33 | <gbee> | clever: backtraces would help, no matter how random |
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| 18:34 | <clever> | but if i cant attach when its crashing |
| 18:34 | <gbee> | entirely random and unexplainable crashes generally point to a build issue |
| 18:34 | <clever> | and i cant reproduce when gdb is going |
| 18:34 | <clever> | then its hard to get a backtrace in the first place |
| 18:34 | <high-rez> | it doesn't help that I'm not at console - doing everything using the network remote control port ;) |
| 18:34 | <clever> | one of my crashes |
| 18:35 | <clever> | disables all key based input |
| 18:35 | <clever> | keyboard and telnet control |
| 18:35 | <clever> | which makes it imposible to control until playback ends |
| 18:35 | <high-rez> | *my* crashes are all consistent as hell when I don't compile with debugging. :| |
| 18:35 | <high-rez> | and now they're just making me look like an ass. |
| 18:35 | <clever> | just run the debug 24/7 then |
| 18:35 | <clever> | thats what i do |
| 18:35 | <clever> | debug and core dumping are enabled on every system |
| 18:36 | <clever> | all going to /media/mainlv/cores/ which is nfs |
| 18:36 | <clever> | and the filenames point to the exact source |
| 18:36 | <clever> | core.mythfilldatabas.19861.media |
| 18:36 | <jams> | maybe we should start taking donations to buy clever current hardware, so the old stuff can be retired. |
| 18:36 | <clever> | im working on phasing out my 133mhz system:P |
| 18:38 | <iamlindoro> | He will *still* use it to hold up a short chair leg |
| 18:38 | <iamlindoro> | and to make sure my children have permanent suntans |
| 18:38 | <Thunder-> | take it out in the desert and shoot it with something :) |
| 18:39 | <clever> | i think my P4 beast is probly using more power then the 133mhz |
| 18:40 | <high-rez> | My frontend is a q6850 :) |
| 18:41 | <clever> | my main frontends are a 1.6ghz laptop and a 1.6ghz desktop |
| 18:42 | <iamlindoro> | You know, global warming is an aggregate effect |
| 18:42 | <high-rez> | i used to use a 1.5ghz amd athlon xp 1800+ - when I was doing only mpeg2. |
| 18:42 | <iamlindoro> | as in, who gives a rat what your 133 doesn't use much power when you use 17 of them? |
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| 18:43 | <iamlindoro> | You should limit your computer use to a single 15 AMP breaker, the end |
| 18:43 | <clever> | i had 3 systems running off a single socket thru a UPS for the longest while |
| 18:43 | <clever> | the ups started to kick out |
| 18:43 | <clever> | turns out i was melting the ground line |
| 18:44 | <Thunder-> | single socket on the ups? |
| 18:45 | <Thunder-> | interesting, those are usually 15 amp rated, must have been 3 power hungry machines ;) |
| 18:45 | <clever> | the ups has 4 outputs sockets |
| 18:45 | <clever> | but its all going to 1 socket in the wall |
| 18:45 | <Thunder-> | 15*120v should get you a max of 1800 watts draw before thing start melting ;) |
| 18:45 | <Thunder-> | ah |
| 18:46 | <Thunder-> | still.. interesting that something went wrong |
| 18:46 | <clever> | it was a thin jumper wire |
| 18:46 | <gbee> | guys, other channel please? :) |
| 18:46 | <clever> | the kind my dad would use as fuse's |
| 18:46 | <Thunder-> | gbee: sorry :) |
| 18:52 | <rage__> | is there any fix for the "Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times" stuff that I've seen going on with quite a few people so says google? :P |
| 18:52 | <high-rez> | Do debug builds disable functionality or CPU optomizations ? |
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| 18:53 | <clever> | it will use more memory atleast |
| 18:53 | <clever> | and probly some more cpu power |
| 18:54 | <high-rez> | But for example, ssse3 usage won't be disabled ? |
| 18:54 | <clever> | though if your system can handle that, i dont see much reason to avoid it |
| 18:54 | <clever> | ive skimmed over that part of the code |
| 18:54 | <clever> | it still gets used |
| 18:54 | <clever> | but other optional parts would also be enabled and use more cpu |
| 18:55 | <iamlindoro> | Thunder-, looks like it was GBPVR I was thinking of |
| 18:56 | <Thunder-> | iamlindoro: how the hell did they do that? (and how can i steal it to port mythfe to it) |
| 18:56 | <iamlindoro> | Thunder-, Good question :) Looks like they based it on the their MVP source, though |
| 18:56 | <high-rez> | shaweet got my segfault :) |
| 18:56 | <Thunder-> | iamlindoro: yeah i see hauppauge protocol crap |
| 18:57 | <iamlindoro> | Thunder-, http://www.mvpmc.org/~gettler/plugin.html |
| 18:58 | <iamlindoro> | So looks like Myth playback may already be possible from a curcory read of that apge |
| 18:58 | <iamlindoro> | er page |
| 18:58 | <iamlindoro> | er cursory |
| 18:58 | <Thunder-> | iamlindoro: is popcorn hour directly compatible with nmt firmware? |
| 18:59 | <Thunder-> | i have actually tried mythfe on the old nmt.. crashy as hell |
| 18:59 | <iamlindoro> | Thunder-, I don't know |
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| 19:03 | <gbee> | nigel's not logging in before commenting on tickets or posting attachments, he'd racked up a karma of -5 off the back of 3/4 failed (spam blocked) submissions :D |
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| 19:04 | <iamlindoro> | Thunder-, http://www.mvpmc.org/~mvallevand/mvpmcx2.zip would probably be the better starting point for Myth compat-- a different approach, and more up to date |
| 19:04 | <iamlindoro> | Also see http://forums.gbpvr.com/showthread.php?t=33790 for the GB-PVR installation guide |
| 19:04 | <Thunder-> | iamlindoro: i think i just read the same thread |
| 19:04 | <Thunder-> | haha. |
| 19:05 | <Thunder-> | wow, that would work with sagetv also |
| 19:05 | <iamlindoro> | heh |
| 19:05 | <Thunder-> | very interesting. |
| 19:07 | <iamlindoro> | Looks like there's 1080p support as well, so that's neato |
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| 21:24 | <rage__> | is there any fix for the "Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times" stuff that I've seen going on with quite a few people so says google? :P |
| 21:24 | <iamlindoro> | see channel topic |
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