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| 00:25 | <tsukasa__> | okay, i only have one problem left |
| 00:26 | <tsukasa__> | basically i cant fullscreen the front end |
| 00:26 | <tsukasa__> | the tv is 1366x768, and it works just dandy at any windowed resolution, in both opengl and qt |
| 00:26 | <tsukasa__> | including 1365x767 |
| 00:27 | <tsukasa__> | but as soon as its 1366x768 or fullscreened, the graphics fuck up, with the menus being all torn up and distorted |
| 00:27 | <tsukasa__> | so how can i fix this |
| 00:27 | <tsukasa__> | dammit wrong channel again |
| 00:28 | <tsukasa__> | this should be renamed mythtv-devel T_T |
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| 02:44 | <stuarta> | interesting set of discussions following on from the dvb s2api announcement |
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| 05:02 | <gbee> | stuarta: arguments over the decision to go with S2 instead of multiproto? |
| 05:03 | <stuarta> | yeah |
| 05:03 | <gbee> | interesting that one of the most vocal critics throughout has been the guy who wrote multiproto support for VDR - he's upset that it was a waste of time |
| 05:04 | <stuarta> | hah. i've not followed the discussion at all |
| 05:04 | <stuarta> | not had the time |
| 05:06 | <laga> | the guy has a point, though. i doubt the meeting was completely unbiased ;) |
| 05:06 | <gbee> | I've not followed the whole thing through, just checked in on it from time to time |
| 05:07 | <stuarta> | yeah, i had to agree that there was the potential for bias |
| 05:08 | <gbee> | they _do_ have a point, but for the sake of getting some working next gen support in the kernel I think that they should just drop it |
| 05:11 | <gbee> | I can't really debate the technical merits of which API is better, but from my perspective the one which was developed by a group and which is an extension of the old API sounds more promising than the complete re-write by one individual |
| 05:12 | <stuarta> | i agree |
| 05:12 | <stuarta> | also the fact that one of the guys been contributing works for hauppage |
| 05:13 | <hads> | Sounds like it makes sense. |
| 05:16 | <gbee> | stuarta: aye, multiproto - according to a email last week from Manu, multiproto doesn't support any hauppauge devices ... |
| 05:18 | <gbee> | which I guess could be fixed pretty quickly, to be fair |
| 05:20 | <rooaus> | I liked Manu's statement though... "Void is beautiful too." |
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| 05:38 | <anykey_> | let's hope that this quickly comes to an end and we can use dvb-s2 soon :) |
| 05:42 | <gbee> | I think that statement made followed the meeting is conclusive enough, the debate is over and s2api won - the people arguing now probably won't change that |
| 05:42 | <stuarta> | yes |
| 05:43 | <laga> | i think one of these guys (markus?) had his own repo anyways |
| 05:43 | <laga> | so i don't know why wants to contribute to the discussion when he has forked the code already |
| 05:44 | <anykey_> | because. ;) |
| 05:44 | <gbee> | remember that this has been going on s2api vs multiproto for a month - the meeting sealed the fate of multiproto |
| 05:44 | <stuarta> | thought it was a year |
| 05:45 | <gbee> | stuarta: there was unhappiness about multiproto for 18 months, but s2api was only really born in the last couple of months (following an initial proposal about a year ago) |
| 05:45 | <stuarta> | ah, okay |
| 05:45 | <gbee> | lots of people were bitching about multiproto, but there wasn't an alternative on the table until now |
| 05:46 | <gbee> | at least that's the way I've understood things, those subscribed to the list would have a better picture of things |
| 05:48 | <gbee> | if anything, that demonstrates one of the good things about S2API - from work starting to kernel it's going to take 1/3 or less of the time than multiproto |
| 05:49 | <stuarta> | \o/ |
| 05:49 | <gbee> | simpler changes, more devs - longer term that means more people interested and able to maintain |
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| 05:53 | <buttnutt> | hi |
| 06:02 | <gbee> | have there been mpeg stream handler changes which might explain why this leak has been fixed - http://paste.ubuntu.com/50031/ |
| 06:03 | <gbee> | I don't remember the commit, but it could have slipped past me in one of Erik's patches as I wasn't paying a lot of attention to those |
| 06:04 | <stuarta> | RSAAuthentication yes |
| 06:04 | <stuarta> | PubkeyAuthentication yes |
| 06:04 | <stuarta> | oops |
| 06:04 | <stuarta> | damn windows cut n paster |
| 06:04 | <gbee> | PasswordAuthentication no |
| 06:05 | <stuarta> | i believe there was something in that area from erics patches |
| 06:05 | <stuarta> | i have that already :) |
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| 06:08 | <gbee> | just checked, user says that it was fixed for them after upgrading -fixes from http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/17490 but there were no commits to libmythtv/mpeg/ which account for it |
| 06:08 | <stuarta> | ooo, heroes s3 starts on bbc on 1st oct |
| 06:09 | <stuarta> | curious |
| 06:09 | <stuarta> | i've long suspected there are memory issues in that area |
| 06:09 | <stuarta> | that only show up when you have a bad signal |
| 06:09 | <laga> | i think someone commented it might be related to EIT handling |
| 06:09 | <gbee> | except maybe this one - http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset?new=18228%40branches%2Frelease-0-21-fixes%2Fmythtv%2Flibs%2Flibmythtv%2Fmpeg&old=17502%40branches%2Frelease-0-21-fixes%2Fmythtv%2Flibs%2Flibmythtv%2Fmpeg |
| 06:09 | <laga> | and janneg committed something related to that. although he claims it couldnt have possibly fixed it :) |
| 06:09 | <gbee> | looks like we have a winner |
| 06:10 | <stuarta> | what commit was that? |
| 06:10 | <gbee> | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/18228 |
| 06:10 | <laga> | 18228? |
| 06:10 | <stuarta> | much nicer url :) |
| 06:10 | <gbee> | yeah |
| 06:11 | <gbee> | it's the only possible commit, if we assume that the user is right and the problem is definately fixed |
| 06:11 | <stuarta> | close the ticket anyway |
| 06:11 | <gbee> | not that I can see how exactly :/ |
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| 06:42 | <janneg> | gbee: that commit can't have fixed a mem leak. the only change is that the memcpy is done in less cases |
| 06:43 | <janneg> | and if the user hadn't complained about strange chars in EIT before the change it should not make any difference |
| 06:55 | <gbee> | janneg: yeah, it doesn't explain it |
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| 07:29 | <academy> | I have xvid movies split over 2-3 CDs and have chained them so that after mythtv plays the first cd it automatically moves on to the second. I then marked cd2/3 as not browseable, yet they still appear in the video listings. How can I hide them? |
| 07:30 | <justinh> | first of all, go to the correct channel :) |
| 07:31 | <academy> | ugh, |
| 07:31 | <academy> | sorry |
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| 08:32 | <gbee> | 602 open tickets, doesn't seem that long ago when we managed to bring it under 400 |
| 08:33 | <gbee> | we need more devs, or at least some people to triage tickets |
| 08:34 | <stuarta> | or some of those time turner things harry potter has |
| 08:34 | <stuarta> | so us devs can actually get some work done |
| 08:37 | <gbee> | aye, that would come in handy |
| 08:38 | <gbee> | can't even blame Erik, only 23 of those tickets are his |
| 08:39 | <stuarta> | oh dear |
| 08:39 | <stuarta> | we have got a lot of work to do... |
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| 08:43 | <gbee> | problem is that we've fewer people active right now, Chutt, Captain_Murdoch, Gigem, Bruce, Oscar and possibly xris are all inactive at the moment |
| 08:44 | <gbee> | where inactive == not active on MythTV ;) |
| 08:44 | <stuarta> | well i'm only at 5% |
| 08:44 | <stuarta> | if that |
| 08:46 | <gbee> | that leaves just five people able to contribute more than an hour a week - Janneg, Nigel, Danielk, Paul and I |
| 08:47 | <stuarta> | that's pretty much the only people actively doing any commits |
| 08:48 | <gbee> | 120 tickets each, conservative average of 30 minutes per ticket, 60 hours total each just to clear the backlog and that ignores the ongoing work we're all doing |
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| 08:49 | <gbee> | even with my flexible schedule, 60 hours is huge chunk of my spare time ;) |
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| 08:50 | * | gbee lights up the Bat signal |
| 08:53 | * | stuarta fires up the windows build on this laptop while waiting for HP engineer |
| 08:54 | <stuarta> | ffs. i'm sitting on a 100mb/s connection to the net and download of perl is doing 40k/s |
| 09:06 | <stuarta> | now to encourage this to build on d: not c: |
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| 09:14 | <justinh> | I better learn to code & quick! ;) |
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| 09:37 | <janneg> | gbee: and only Paul, Nigel and you commit regularly |
| 09:39 | <janneg> | feck, my MBE's root disk just died |
| 09:39 | <gbee> | my condolences |
| 09:40 | <stuarta> | wtf does the windows port need the fortran compiler?!?!? |
| 09:41 | <stuarta> | it's entirely possible thats where tar is for some odd reason |
| 09:42 | <gbee> | forgot Kevin and Stanley in the list of inactive devs, so from ~23 devs 18 months ago we're down to between 3 and 7 active |
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| 09:43 | <gbee> | 13, typo |
| 09:43 | <justinh> | where did everybody go? |
| 09:43 | <gbee> | some have probably moved on, after a while people just find new interests |
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| 09:44 | <gbee> | others are just extremely busy and the more time you spend away from a project the harder it is to get back into the work |
| 09:45 | <GreyFoxx> | It would be sweet to be paid to work on Myth all day |
| 09:45 | <GreyFoxx> | At least for a while :) |
| 09:45 | <GreyFoxx> | I'd much rather be doing that than my "real job" |
| 09:45 | <gbee> | there is always a natural turnover, only we've not added any new faces to replace them (although I believe there are some good candidates around) |
| 09:46 | <gbee> | GreyFoxx: aye |
| 09:46 | <GreyFoxx> | I actually got to spend an entire 6 hours messing around in the code on Saturday and loved every minute of it |
| 09:46 | <GreyFoxx> | but that was a rare circumstance :/ |
| 09:47 | <justinh> | I love it when stuff works :) |
| 09:47 | <justinh> | just have to keep in mind that when it doesn't work, it's probably not far off working - or I've bitten off more than I can chew |
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| 09:48 | <rooaus> | I wonder if there will be more activity from non core devs when 0.22 is released, ie after Mythui and qt4 port bedded down? |
| 09:49 | <janneg> | the drive isn't even detected anymore |
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| 09:50 | <justinh> | janneg: ouchy |
| 09:50 | <gbee> | maybe, there is also a seasonal cycle which you see in OOS - during the Summer, when the weather is better and the days longer people don't want to spend their weekends and evenings sitting in front of the computer, so I expect we'll see a small upsurge as we head into winter |
| 09:51 | <rooaus> | true |
| 09:51 | <gbee> | janneg: that really sucks |
| 09:52 | <janneg> | hard to say but I think it doesn't even spins up |
| 09:52 | <rooaus> | gbee: Did any further discussion happen about the trac triage workflow? |
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| 09:54 | <gbee> | rooaus: no, I think we need to pin down Chutt - even if everyone else is in favour he's the only one who can add new people to trac |
| 10:00 | <rooaus> | gbee: np. by the way, I wasn't suggesting myself for the role :). But I do think you could definitely find a couple of suitable people. Just thinking it might help you out with the 600+ tickets. |
| 10:04 | <gbee> | back in a while, have to go out |
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| 10:06 | <zabbadapp> | easiest way from a frontend to "ping" and see if myth-backend is running? (not the server, but the actual myth-backend) |
| 10:07 | <rooaus> | zabbadapp: try #mythtv-users |
| 10:07 | <zabbadapp> | thanks, sorry |
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| 10:30 | <stuarta> | so much fun watching the win port build.... |
| 10:31 | <laga> | are you going to provide binaries? |
| 10:32 | <stuarta> | not atm. |
| 10:32 | <stuarta> | this is more testing for the fun of it |
| 10:32 | <laga> | good for your sanity ;) |
| 10:32 | <stuarta> | i am insufficiently interested in windows to make binaries available |
| 10:33 | <justinh> | just get a domain with some false whois info. no email, no pack-drill |
| 10:33 | <stuarta> | meh, i'd release osx binaries before windows ones |
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| 10:46 | <justinh> | join #mythtv-users |
| 10:47 | <justinh> | duh |
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| 11:09 | <mattwire> | anybody know which theme gbee was testing mythvideo with? |
| 11:09 | <mattwire> | i can't get it to run with any of the themes so far |
| 11:10 | <gbee> | G.A.N.T and MythCenter |
| 11:10 | <mattwire> | ah, you're back. |
| 11:10 | <justinh> | give me a chance & I can update the rest of the core themes |
| 11:10 | <gbee> | mattwire: just in :) |
| 11:11 | <gbee> | I did forget to delete the old video-ui.xml from themes, let me just do that |
| 11:11 | <mattwire> | it works with gant |
| 11:12 | <mattwire> | getting an issue with main menus not displaying any text though |
| 11:13 | <mattwire> | with both qt and gl painters |
| 11:13 | <laga> | i have that in virtualbox |
| 11:14 | <laga> | well, with mythtv itself, not mythvideo |
| 11:14 | <mattwire> | mythcenter and blue display menus but I think they're both using images |
| 11:14 | <mattwire> | yes, mythtv itself |
| 11:14 | <mattwire> | mythvideo seems to be fine in fact |
| 11:16 | <mattwire> | i'm running it on a real system |
| 11:16 | <gbee> | Mythcenter doesn't use images |
| 11:16 | <mattwire> | that's odd then |
| 11:16 | <gbee> | GANT's probably just missing the correct menu font |
| 11:16 | <gbee> | it uses Arial |
| 11:17 | <justinh> | mythcenter & gant use the same fonts AFAIK |
| 11:17 | <gbee> | and QT isn't quite smart enough to find a suitable replacement on most systems |
| 11:17 | <justinh> | oops. trebuchet MS is what mythcenter uses |
| 11:18 | <gbee> | which probably isn't installed either, but QT knows of a similar looking font and uses that instead |
| 11:19 | <mattwire> | strange, i do have arial installed from the msttcorefonts set |
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| 11:19 | <mattwire> | can see it in openoffice and stuff |
| 11:19 | <gbee> | ok, well I'm out of ideas ;) |
| 11:19 | <mattwire> | does mythfrontend log when it can't find a font? |
| 11:20 | <justinh> | mattwire: only if a font definition is missing |
| 11:20 | <justinh> | never moans that it can't find a font face |
| 11:21 | <gbee> | it should, just one of those things that I've not got around to adding |
| 11:25 | <mattwire> | nothing obvious in the logs |
| 11:25 | <mattwire> | when it starts up with any of the themes I get five of these messages: |
| 11:25 | <mattwire> | MythUIButton::CopyFrom: Dynamic cast of a child failed |
| 11:25 | <mattwire> | but that's even with mythcenter which works |
| 11:28 | <gbee> | mattwire: hmm, just added that error - wonder why |
| 11:28 | <gbee> | probably a typo |
| 11:32 | <gbee> | fix committed, typo in Erik's patch, missed it when reviewing |
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| 11:41 | <mattwire> | ok. that error has gone now |
| 11:41 | <mattwire> | in mythvideo I can't switch to list view |
| 11:41 | <mattwire> | Get a missing elements error: |
| 11:41 | <mattwire> | Loading from: /usr/share/mythtv/themes/default/video-ui.xml |
| 11:41 | <mattwire> | 2008-09-24 16:41:03.609 Theme is missing critical elements. |
| 11:42 | <gbee> | which theme? |
| 11:42 | <mattwire> | mythcenter |
| 11:42 | <gbee> | err, nevermind |
| 11:42 | <gbee> | odd, checking now |
| 11:43 | <Chutt> | make sure that's not an old copy of the theme lying around |
| 11:43 | <Chutt> | ie, it says '/usr/share', and most svn builds wouldn't install there |
| 11:44 | <mattwire> | they do if you use --prefix=/usr |
| 11:44 | <Chutt> | which isn't a good idea, but, whatever you want =) |
| 11:44 | <mattwire> | i know, but it works better that way for me |
| 11:44 | <mattwire> | because I usually build my own packages which install there |
| 11:45 | <mattwire> | and if i do svn builds to /usr/local i end up getting conflicts |
| 11:45 | <mattwire> | but anyway, i did clear the entire /usr/share/mythtv directory out earlier to try and get the fonts to appear |
| 11:46 | <gbee> | aside from forgetting to sync the -wide version of the default theme to match the non-wide, I can't see an obvious cause - it works here |
| 11:50 | <mattwire> | it seems to be getting very confused with paths, missing off subdirectories etc |
| 11:50 | <mattwire> | need to do a bit more investigating to find out exactly what it's doing |
| 11:50 | <gbee> | mythvideo, or the theme stuff? |
| 11:50 | <mattwire> | mythvideo |
| 11:51 | <gbee> | might need switching to filebrowse mode - defaults to database, but the underlying list building hasn't changed |
| 11:52 | <gbee> | Menu > Change View > Enable File Browsing |
| 11:53 | <gbee> | or just do a rescan |
| 11:53 | <mattwire> | filebrowse works ok |
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| 11:55 | <mattwire> | except if i switch it with a usb key connected it opens that instead |
| 11:55 | <mattwire> | with 28 entries and filenames ranging 00001 to 00004 |
| 11:55 | <mattwire> | and i can't get out without exiting mythvideo and re-entering |
| 11:56 | <mattwire> | at which point it's no longer in file browse mode |
| 11:56 | <gbee> | fixing the 'no longer in file browse' bug, typo meant the setting wasn't being saved |
| 11:57 | <gbee> | no idea about the USB key - pre-existing bug because I've not changed that side of things at all |
| 11:57 | <mattwire> | the setting in mythvideo settings doesn't make it stick either |
| 11:59 | <gbee> | mattwire: yeah, because the wrong value is being saved as a result of the typo |
| 11:59 | <gbee> | fix committed |
| 12:05 | <gbee> | heh, an up-node is displayed in the root directory in file browse mode |
| 12:06 | <gbee> | up directory node |
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| 12:08 | <mattwire> | think it's working ok now without the usb key |
| 12:08 | <mattwire> | i'll have to look into that |
| 12:08 | <mattwire> | another time.. |
| 12:08 | <mattwire> | still can't get into list view though |
| 12:09 | <mattwire> | getting the critical elements error still |
| 12:09 | <mattwire> | any way of telling which elements it's missing? |
| 12:09 | <Anduin> | mattwire: not runnin 18400? |
| 12:09 | <gbee> | mattwire: current trunk? |
| 12:09 | <mattwire> | svn as of about 2 mins ago |
| 12:09 | <gbee> | mattwire: only one element is critical for that screen <buttontree> |
| 12:10 | <gbee> | on the other three it's <buttonlist> |
| 12:12 | <gbee> | can't see where that rogue up directory node is coming from |
| 12:14 | <gbee> | mattwire: pastebin video-ui.xml and I can double check, but it's there in trunk and I know GreyFoxx has been using it without that problem |
| 12:15 | <gbee> | mattwire: it should be in <window name="tree"> |
| 12:16 | <mattwire> | http://pastebin.com/d1a23767a |
| 12:16 | <mattwire> | it has two lines defined there i think |
| 12:16 | <mattwire> | there's a buttontree definition in there |
| 12:18 | <gbee> | that's all correct |
| 12:20 | <mattwire> | still no joy after cleaning the installed files |
| 12:20 | <mattwire> | i'll build it on my mythbox and see if the problem exists there as well |
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| 12:24 | <GreyFoxx> | you are seeing an Updirectory icon in the root of the videogallery ? |
| 12:24 | <mattwire> | yep |
| 12:24 | <GreyFoxx> | I've Definitely not seen that |
| 12:25 | <GreyFoxx> | But I'm also doing another update/compile right now so I'll try it again |
| 12:28 | <laga> | GreyFoxx: do you still have that embedded mysql patch somewhere? |
| 12:28 | <gbee> | GreyFoxx: only there in filebrowse mode |
| 12:29 | <gbee> | it's something unrelated to the mythui changes, that child node just shouldn't be added to the root |
| 12:32 | <gbee> | I'll debug later, it's not that serious |
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| 12:53 | <Anduin> | the list view brokenness is not theme related currently, how are you getting there gbee? |
| 12:53 | <Anduin> | (a jump point is the only thing that looks like it will work) |
| 12:57 | <gbee> | Anduin: mythfrontend mythvideo |
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| 12:57 | <gbee> | "Video List" |
| 12:58 | <Anduin> | Yeah, cheating :) |
| 12:59 | <gbee> | I know what's wrong - shouldn't take two minutes to fix |
| 12:59 | <Anduin> | I've got several other things to commit tonight, I'll add a fix for this one (had already started on part of it). One of the problems is that the normal menu will jump to the DLG_DEFAULT, the DLG_TREE check will fail, SwitchLayout() doesn't even try currently. |
| 13:04 | <gbee> | Anduin: got a patch for switch layout, not quite sure what the normal menu problem is? |
| 13:04 | <Anduin> | gbee: in runScreen() from the default jump the dialog type is DLG_DEFAULT, bypassing the check to DLG_TREE and resulting in a VideoDialog instead of a VideoTree |
| 13:05 | <gbee> | ahh |
| 13:06 | <gbee> | yeah, so the default screen type check needs to be moved - I'll leave that to you, I might as well commit the switch layout fix first |
| 13:07 | <gbee> | that code was never updated to reflect the need for video tree to be a seperate screen, at the time I still thought it might be possible to combine them into one |
| 13:08 | <gbee> | actually I've since decided it would be possible, but I wasn't going to go back on what I'd already started |
| 13:10 | <Anduin> | It is very close now, having a fuller common base I'll be able to hide it if I can't make it all fit |
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| 13:16 | <gbee> | it would be possible with some m_type switches in Create() and the currently virtual methods |
| 13:18 | <gbee> | it would eliminate the remaining duplicate code |
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| 13:45 | <gbee> | Chutt: there? |
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| 14:04 | <stuarta> | ooo er... |
| 14:04 | <stuarta> | "Theme is missing critical elements" |
| 14:05 | <stuarta> | clearly project grahem doesn't like gbee's latest changes |
| 14:06 | <stuarta> | any way to find out what it wants? |
| 14:07 | <mattwire> | i asked the same questions earlier.. |
| 14:07 | <mattwire> | apparently no there isn't a way currently |
| 14:07 | <Anduin> | stuarta: "videos" or button list |
| 14:07 | <stuarta> | ah, that's what you were wondering |
| 14:07 | <Anduin> | he may not be seeing the same thing |
| 14:07 | <mattwire> | but critical elements are buttonlist |
| 14:07 | <mattwire> | or buttontree |
| 14:08 | <mattwire> | for mythvideo |
| 14:08 | <stuarta> | i get it attempting to enter watch videos |
| 14:08 | * | stuarta tries a different theme |
| 14:08 | <mattwire> | it should work with all the built-in themes |
| 14:08 | <mattwire> | or the others if you remove video-ui.xml to force it to use the default |
| 14:10 | <stuarta> | hmmm |
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| 14:11 | <stuarta> | should it not pull in a default element if a theme is missing it? |
| 14:11 | <stuarta> | that would allow things to work, albeit look a bit strange |
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| 14:16 | * | stuarta gets a backtrace from the frontend exit hang |
| 14:23 | <stuarta> | grrr, missing qt4 debug symbols |
| 14:24 | <stuarta> | 87.6Mb ??? eeek |
| 14:27 | <clever> | yes the qt4 debug symbols are painfull |
| 14:27 | <clever> | 200mb unpacked for my system |
| 14:27 | <clever> | more painfull when you have ~200mb ram |
| 14:28 | <stuarta> | hahah |
| 14:28 | <clever> | yes i do have other systems with more ram |
| 14:28 | * | stuarta fires up the frontend again to watch it hang |
| 14:28 | <clever> | but using the core file on the wrong / causes problems |
| 14:28 | <clever> | the binarys dont match up perfectly |
| 14:29 | <clever> | thats one of the nice things from sharing a / with nfsroot |
| 14:29 | <clever> | the core file fits perfectly on every system |
| 14:29 | <stuarta> | that's why i upped my dev machine to 2Gb |
| 14:29 | <clever> | my last crashing problem was a bug within the iobound warning when writing |
| 14:29 | <clever> | which only got triggered often on my 400mhz system |
| 14:31 | <stuarta> | i was hoping they had been fixed with the commits nigel's been doing |
| 14:31 | <clever> | i havent updated much lately |
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| 14:35 | <gbee> | stuarta: just delete video-ui.xml in the project-grayhem folder |
| 14:36 | <stuarta> | definitely off waiting for threads to exit |
| 14:36 | <stuarta> | gbee: okay |
| 14:37 | <justinh> | stuarta: I'll fix all that stuff when I get round to it - probably won't be too long - course anybody else is welcome to help :) |
| 14:37 | <Dibblah> | I assume kormoc isn't all that active at the moment? |
| 14:37 | <gbee> | it doesn't currently fallback to the default theme, it should and I'll add see about adding that at some point |
| 14:37 | <Dibblah> | Trying to triage #4608... |
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| 14:38 | <Dibblah> | (The issue is that Mythweb updates the schedule, but the backend doesn't stop the in-progress recording, since it's already active) |
| 14:39 | <Dibblah> | The user has expectations set by 'Cancel this schedule' being accessible there. |
| 14:40 | <Dibblah> | It actually MEANS cancel the schedule for recording any of that recording rule - not the instance of the program. |
| 14:42 | <gbee> | Dibblah: being able to cancel an in-progress recording from mythweb would be handy, I generally end up having to delete them instead |
| 14:43 | <Dibblah> | Agreed. Looking at the code now to see how easy it is to genericise the 'do not record this instance' button, which I seem to remember working. |
| 14:44 | <xris> | gbee: can you even do that fro the frontend? |
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| 14:44 | <Dibblah> | "Do not record this specific showing" |
| 14:44 | <xris> | I tend to just "delete", though that's usually the only reason I'd want to stop a recording, anyway |
| 14:44 | <gbee> | xris: yes |
| 14:44 | <gbee> | in the Watch Recordings menu you can "Stop Recording" |
| 14:46 | <xris> | ah. menu.. that's something I rarely use. heh |
| 14:46 | <gbee> | I occassionally spot a programme I want to record at the last minute which clashes with a lower priority in-progress recording, I might not want to lose half of a recording just because there was something more interesting to record (rare but it happens) |
| 14:46 | <xris> | I'll have to try that next time I have a zero-byte recording.. deleting that when in progress makes the backend segfault. |
| 14:46 | <xris> | not sure if that bug has been fixed or not -- I've been hesitant to upgrade since the qt4 port started. |
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| 14:47 | <gbee> | xris: STOP_RECORDING |
| 14:48 | <xris> | you'll have to remind me about that sometime when I'm home |
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| 14:48 | <gbee> | sure |
| 14:48 | <xris> | I'll probably end up with a bunch of spare time next week. wife is out of town. |
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| 14:50 | <pat__> | Hi, I've just set up my myth tv box, and scanned in all the channels (uk/dvb-s/freesat), but now I have hundreds of channels with seemingly random channel numbers. How can I manually reorder them in the guide? |
| 14:50 | <pat__> | Oh soory I guess I should be in -users |
| 14:51 | * | stuarta wanders off to cook some fuud |
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| 14:54 | <gbee> | GreyFoxx, Anduin: the flat mode is a per-screen option, should filebrowse be the same? So the user can have some views browse the filesystem and others can use the database without have to constantly flip between them? |
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| 14:55 | <Dibblah> | I misremembered. Schedule override doesn't work on in-progress recordings either. |
| 14:56 | <Anduin> | gbee: It was (thus the "[view type] browses files" option), there are disadvantages though, different filter/browse files/etc mean more tree rebuilding during the switch. |
| 14:57 | <gbee> | Anduin: that's why I kept it a global setting, but I just thought I'd check whether that was acceptable |
| 14:59 | <Anduin> | Yeah, I have no problem making it a toggle, I don't think I can get away with eliminating per-view settings anyway. |
| 15:01 | <Dibblah> | Nope. This was a bad ticket to start triaging. I can see the issue from the user's point of view - There is not enough separation between the 'schedule' and the instance of the schedule. |
| 15:01 | <gbee> | might be possible to merge the filebrowsing/database modes at some future point, such that the tree contains both lots of data and we just mask out the entries we don't want |
| 15:03 | <gbee> | at the point where we build the list in loaddata we can check the item against the filter rules before creating a buttonitem |
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| 15:03 | <gbee> | one way of doing it maybe (here I go again) |
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| 15:08 | <gbee> | laga, janneg: mind looking at the T&C for this site and seeing if we can legally use the data - http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5470 |
| 15:08 | <gbee> | Thanks |
| 15:08 | <laga> | sure |
| 15:10 | <gbee> | s/thanks/please/ and thank you ;) |
| 15:13 | <laga> | there is no *explicit* rule against it. but i'm not sure if it's allowed. |
| 15:13 | <laga> | you can have one copy of the page for viewing |
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| 15:14 | <laga> | but you may not use it in any way for private or commercial use. |
| 15:14 | <laga> | we could send an email? |
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| 15:20 | <gbee> | better to ask |
| 15:20 | <laga> | sure |
| 15:21 | <laga> | i will compose one tomorrow i guess |
| 15:21 | <gbee> | thanks :) |
| 15:21 | <Dibblah> | Does this sort of thing actually help? http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4608#comment:11 |
| 15:21 | <gbee> | we need a legal department ;) |
| 15:21 | <gbee> | Dibblah: sure |
| 15:23 | <gbee> | doesn't necessarily mean that we have extra time to fix an issue, but understanding the problem helps save time wasted on back and forth with a ticket submitter who might never even reply |
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| 15:30 | <laga> | i think i've done four complete checkouts of mythtv today |
| 15:30 | <laga> | bandwidth is just too cheap |
| 15:33 | <Dibblah> | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3395 |
| 15:33 | <Dibblah> | Appears that the entirety of the patch (modified) has been applied. |
| 15:34 | <Dibblah> | I assume this could be changed into a tracking ticket. |
| 15:34 | <Dibblah> | Oh, dear - It already is :( Sorry for the noise. |
| 15:40 | * | gbee sobs |
| 15:41 | <gbee> | 604 open tickets, up two from earlier despite closing tickets |
| 15:42 | <laga> | :( |
| 15:42 | <laga> | that's a lot |
| 15:42 | <laga> | and i was complaining about 160 against mythbuntu |
| 15:43 | <laga> | and there are still a lot which needed to be forwarded to trac.. |
| 15:43 | <laga> | so, does chutt want other people to triage bugs? |
| 15:45 | <laga> | i've become pretty good at the whole "invalid" and "wontfix" thing. |
| 15:46 | <gbee> | laga: Chutt hasn't said anything on the subject .. |
| 15:46 | * | gbee waves at Chutt |
| 15:47 | * | laga pokes chutt with a broom handle |
| 15:48 | <gbee> | kormoc: want to close http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4599 as no response? |
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| 15:54 | <gbee> | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3682 requires a protocol change and that means changes to mythweb, perl and python bindings |
| 15:54 | <gbee> | *yay* |
| 15:54 | * | gbee requests a pay raise |
| 15:55 | <kormoc> | gbee, bug me tomorrow? I'm so bloody swammped |
| 15:55 | <gbee> | kormoc: sure |
| 15:55 | <laga> | gbee: tell the guy to provide complete patches? |
| 15:56 | <gbee> | laga: nah, despite my whinging it's just quicker to make the changes myself, it's something I'm interested in seeing fixed |
| 15:56 | <laga> | ah. |
| 15:57 | <gbee> | could wait months for patches, already have - I said what needed doing 7 months ago |
| 15:57 | <laga> | ah. i guess i should read the ticket. |
| 16:12 | <clever> | gbee: about http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4143 , i had posted that the file played without trouble but i see otherwise now |
| 16:12 | <clever> | the frontend skips like hell, probly from a audio buffer overflow |
| 16:13 | <clever> | but only for 1 short part, probly where the mythtranscode is exploding |
| 16:13 | <clever> | probly simpler to just close the ticket and avoid frame grabbers |
| 16:14 | <clever> | http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s188/evildagmar/Misc/kittenkiller.jpg |
| 16:16 | <gbee> | clever: it's a valid bug which should probably be fixed |
| 16:16 | <clever> | when playing the file back, the audio starts to play real fast |
| 16:16 | <clever> | then the audio starts skiping as the video speeds up |
| 16:17 | <clever> | and after a short while it levels out and plays normaly |
| 16:17 | <gbee> | clever: unlikely to be me fixing it though, so the explanation is wasted ;) |
| 16:17 | <clever> | probly trying to compensate for a lack of audio frames or something |
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| 16:18 | <clever> | i could try to run the file thru plain ffmpeg and maybe forward the ticket to them:P |
| 16:19 | <gbee> | if it offloads the work, sure ;) |
| 16:20 | <clever> | :S |
| 16:20 | <clever> | ffmpeg not found! |
| 16:20 | <laga> | you should compile a trunk checkout anyways |
| 16:20 | <clever> | mythtv@d600:/tmp$ /media/mainlv/root/7.10/bin/ffmpeg -i /media/mainlv/mythtv/1028_20071106120000.nuv tribles.avi |
| 16:21 | <clever> | Error while decoding stream #0.0 |
| 16:21 | <clever> | Floating point exception |
| 16:21 | <clever> | FFmpeg version SVN-r9260, Copyright (c) 2000-2007 Fabrice Bellard, et al. |
| 16:21 | <clever> | trunk of which program? |
| 16:21 | <laga> | ffmpeg |
| 16:21 | <laga> | if you want to report a bug with them |
| 16:21 | <clever> | ah |
| 16:22 | <clever> | i beleive i do have trunk |
| 16:22 | <clever> | just havent updated recently |
| 16:22 | <clever> | mythtranscode --infine /media/mainlv/mythtv/1028_20071106120000.nuv --outfile tribles.nuv |
| 16:22 | <clever> | Unknown option: --infine |
| 16:22 | <clever> | oops typo |
| 16:23 | <clever> | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 1023K 2008-09-24 17:20 tribles.avi |
| 16:23 | <clever> | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 6.6M 2008-09-24 17:23 tribles.nuv |
| 16:23 | <clever> | the crashing seems to be at diff points within the file(or the codecs are just better/worse) |
| 16:23 | <laga> | clever: you do not have to redirect your terminal to this channel |
| 16:23 | <laga> | ;) |
| 16:23 | <clever> | i'll have to backtrace is more |
| 16:23 | <clever> | and your lucky i didnt cat /dev/tty> channel |
| 16:24 | <clever> | i have tail -F on all my myth log files |
| 16:24 | <clever> | it keeps spewing the entire autoexpire list |
| 16:24 | <laga> | clever: in irssi, you can do /exec -o <your command> |
| 16:24 | <clever> | yes i know |
| 16:24 | <laga> | so you could actually use irssi as your terminal. and annoy everyone in here ;) |
| 16:24 | <clever> | but that would spew all, not a few select lines |
| 16:24 | <clever> | and it tends to drop lines |
| 16:25 | <clever> | it stops reading the fifo when waitpid() returns, not when the fifo is EOF |
| 16:26 | <clever> | and irssi probly doesnt like the line drawing char used to reset to the start of the line |
| 16:27 | <clever> | :(, 4800 baud is painfully slow |
| 16:28 | <clever> | back at the fast xterm now |
| 16:30 | <clever> | ok, cant get a backtrace out of ffmpeg:* |
| 16:31 | <clever> | not a debug build |
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| 16:40 | <Chutt> | gbee, you poked? |
| 16:41 | <laga> | Chutt: do you want people who are not core developers to triage tickets in trac? |
| 16:41 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 16:41 | <laga> | any guide lines? |
| 16:41 | <Chutt> | uh |
| 16:41 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 16:41 | <laga> | other than "don't fuck up"? |
| 16:41 | <Chutt> | and "don't be too mean" |
| 16:41 | <laga> | alright, common sense it is then |
| 16:41 | <laga> | i actually signed something that prevents me from being too mean. |
| 16:41 | <gbee> | ok, well it would help if those people had accounts (maybe not full admin) to be able to change ticket properties that average users can't |
| 16:42 | <laga> | dang ubuntu CoC ;) |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | right |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | gbee, i'd have to make a new class of user |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | i'll look into doing that |
| 16:42 | <clever> | playing with trac perms can get fun:) |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | for some weird definitions of fun |
| 16:43 | <gbee> | I think we can pick a few people that can be trusted with the task and if it helps us get through the huge backlog any faster/easier then that's a good thing IMHO |
| 16:43 | <clever> | ive messed with my own trac a bit there |
| 16:43 | <Chutt> | gbee, agree |
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| 16:44 | <gbee> | Chutt: it's pretty easy Admin -> Permissions -> Put name and a new group name into the "Add Subject to Group" box |
| 16:44 | <gbee> | then give that group permissions as normal |
| 16:45 | <gbee> | just tested it by adding myself to the 'test' group |
| 16:45 | <Chutt> | oh, ok |
| 16:45 | <Chutt> | can it be done through the webui? |
| 16:45 | <Chutt> | i mean, that means any dev can add people :p |
| 16:45 | <gbee> | yep |
| 16:46 | <gbee> | sure, though they still need to be registered users which AFAIK you need to setup |
| 16:46 | <gbee> | unless we installed one of the registration plugins so users can self-reg |
| 16:47 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 16:47 | <clever> | login still seems to be plain http-auth like on mine, which meant i had to edit the .htdigest |
| 16:47 | <Chutt> | just get people to send me a htdigest line |
| 16:48 | <gbee> | ok |
| 17:17 | <Dibblah> | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/255 (Improved scheduling of consecutive programs with pre-roll/overrecord) - Isn't this patch / ticket obsoleteish with the changes from multirec? |
| 17:17 | <Dibblah> | (Record to multiple files) |
| 17:21 | <gbee> | it's definately a dead ticket, no activity in nearly two years, for digital users it's less of an issue although multirec doesn't handle the situation perfectly - AFAIK, back to back recordings still happening on the same virtual tuner |
| 17:23 | <gbee> | neither Gigem or Bruce are that active right now and I can't think of anyone else who wants to look at the scheduler |
| 17:24 | <Dibblah> | Only DTVRecorder got that ability? |
| 17:24 | <Dibblah> | Hmm. |
| 17:27 | <gbee> | yes, it wasn't extended to the other recorders, in fact the way I understand it the ability to record to two different files from the same stream wasn't added at all - multiple instances of dtvrecorder are used instead |
| 17:27 | <gbee> | might be wrong on that point though |
| 17:28 | <gnome42> | gbee: you are correct. |
| 17:29 | <Dibblah> | Yes, I see that now, looking at the code. |
| 17:29 | <gnome42> | I have a patch to improve scheduling with back-to-back shows on the same multiplex. |
| 17:33 | <gnome42> | It needs testing with the shared firewire/STB setup. |
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| 17:52 | <laga> | Chutt: what's your email address? |
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| 18:00 | <Chutt> | ijr@case.edu |
