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---Logopened Sun Mar 02 00:00:42 2008
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00:31<Jesus_On_Wheels>can someone help me with TTD, when i play it seems to cut off the sides of the screen so much that i cant see the pause button, searched but cant find any solution
00:42<Poopsmith>resolution is probably set wrong in game options
00:42<Jesus_On_Wheels>i cant find anywhere to change it
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00:43<Jesus_On_Wheels>the only option i can find is full screen or windowed
00:47<Poopsmith>it's directly above the fullscreen toggle button in the main game options window
00:48<Jesus_On_Wheels>thanks friend
00:48<Jesus_On_Wheels>may god smile upon ye
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01:05<De_Ghost>rezie it?
01:06<De_Ghost>that guy was religious
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02:10<Poopsmith>sup Draakon
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02:20<Draakon>hmm, does anyone here has Gonozal patchpack?
02:21<Draakon>erm, LA[lord], you know that you have logged here twice?
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02:22<Draakon>now its ok :=)
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02:24<LA[lord]>Draakon, changing the network.. But this IRC doesn't recognise when the other is offline.
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02:26<LordAzamath>nice! I can't change nick when I have joined #openttd.notice :(
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02:28<Jesus_On_Wheels>ello again
02:29<Jesus_On_Wheels>whats the deal with openTTD, i build a station next to a forest and normally it would fill up with goods but with openttd nothing ever goes into it. have they changed the way it works?
02:30<Poopsmith>station doesnt start stockpiling until an appropriate vehicle has been to the station
02:30<Poopsmith>so until a wood truck or a train able to carry wood goes to that station, no wood will be waiting at the station
02:31<Jesus_On_Wheels>hmm i tried that but nothing seemed to happen
02:31<LordAzamath>You can change it in patch settings IIRC, but it's not really useful imo
02:31<Jesus_On_Wheels>guess i didnt wait long enough
02:31<Jesus_On_Wheels>whyd they change it
02:32<LordAzamath>Because on else way you'd have something like ratin ~20% by the time your train arrives
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04:00<Jesus_On_Wheels>what does the transfer order to do trains?
04:05<Jesus_On_Wheels>if i set a train to full load when that location cant actually give a good which the train can carry will it sit there forever, or only wait for full load of what it can get
04:08<Poopsmith>i imagine it'll sit there forever
04:09<Poopsmith>havent tried it tho
04:10<LordAzamath>Jesus_On_Wheels, it'l wait thereforever :)
04:10<LordAzamath>unless you transfer cargo there
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04:12<Jesus_On_Wheels>hmm i just experiemented
04:13<Jesus_On_Wheels>i had a train that gets 4 different goods and it waits for one good to be fully loaded but not the others and then leaves, which is alright i guess, would be good if you could set which good you want to get a load of
04:14<Poopsmith>it'll get whatever goods it can from that station
04:14<LordAzamath>there is a patch setting LEave if any cargo full or something like that..
04:15<LordAzamath>So you can set it to wait all cargos full too
04:15<LordAzamath>and there is a patchso you can set which cargo to gull loaad
04:16*Poopsmith is boredish
04:16<LordAzamath>* Poopsmith is boring
04:16<Poopsmith>yep, pretty much
04:17<Poopsmith>my weekend has basically consisted of openttd
04:18<Poopsmith>and i was hoping to try out playing coop, but my connection to the openttdcoop server is painfully slow, so i gave up on that idea
04:19<LordAzamath>Poopsmith, atm nobody can play there
04:19<LordAzamath>too nmuch server load
04:19<Poopsmith>ahh, so its not just me
04:19<Poopsmith>thats good
04:19<Poopsmith>bad that noone can play there, but good that its not just my international connectivity sucking
04:23<Poopsmith>cos i'm running an openttd server, but i cant play on my own server because my ping to it is so bad :P
04:25<Jesus_On_Wheels>har har
04:25<Jesus_On_Wheels>why is there lag, the game doesnt have to be that in sync with the server does it
04:26<Poopsmith>still needs to be fairly in sync
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04:26<Poopsmith>not like a FPS, i mean if i was playing Battlefield 2 i would consider 80ms an unacceptable ping, whereas i can play pretty alright on bvestation, which is 350ms for me
04:27<Poopsmith>but it does still need to be in sync
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04:29<Jesus_On_Wheels>the computer in this game im playing keeps going bankrupt and then selling their crappy company to another computer for two dollars which in turn fails because they took over the crappy routes
04:35<LordAzamath>don't use AI
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04:40<LordAzamath>hello Purno
04:44<jez9999>how can i talk to someone from the NoAI branch?
04:46<Poopsmith>my guess would be that a forum post would be your best bet
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05:39<Draakon>question: why trains make a stop on station if they have a non-stop order on it? (PBS network)
05:40<Gonozal_VIII>patch compatible nonstop
05:40<Draakon>hmm right forgot that :P
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06:00<Draakon>on normal signals, if there is jam, trains will try to look for free path on both directions, but with PBS if they cant find it in the dircetion they were going, they will just wait for endlessly in the other direction, why?
06:00<Patrick`>PBS was reintroduced?
06:01<yorick>in a patch
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06:22<Jesus_On_Wheels>u turn off AI? so whats ur aim then?
06:25<LordAzamath>Jesus_On_Wheels, eee.. Build a nn effective nice network trains >1000 and no jams
06:25<LordAzamath>ratings up
06:25<LordAzamath>like #coop style
06:27<Patrick`>massive MASSIVE amount of trains
06:27<Patrick`>I still have a save somewhere from when I topped out at 300
06:27<Patrick`>but it was a struggle
06:27<Patrick`>when you have 10+ people working on it ...
06:27<LordAzamath>And all with very high skills
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06:28<LordAzamath>And a plan
06:28<Patrick`>town removal's a chore
06:28<Jesus_On_Wheels>i still dont understand the train AI wholley. i make a whole bunch of tracks which do fine and then i do the same style and they start jamming
06:28<Patrick`>trees, bomb a house, trees, bomb a house, trees, bomb a house
06:29<LordAzamath>Patrick`, demoloish a large area.. Plant trees, get rid of some houses.. demolish a large area.. Plant trees, get rid of some houses.. :P
06:29<Patrick`>that's what I meant
06:29<LordAzamath>yeah.. but you only remove houses nt trees
06:29<Patrick`>no, that's what I actually meant
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06:29<Patrick`>I just typed it wrong
06:29<LordAzamath>treehugger :(
06:30<Patrick`>it's the only way to regenerate bare earth
06:30<LordAzamath>to be treehugger`? Come on.
06:30<Patrick`>to get a town to like you enoough to destroy it
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07:09<Gonozal_VIII>missing ! for a kick
07:09<Gonozal_VIII>hmm no kick
07:10<Gonozal_VIII>writing !password usually results in a kick with reason wrong channel :P
07:11<Joy>Is this nog the openttdcoopserver then?
07:11<Joy>nog = not
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07:12<Gonozal_VIII>hmm i guess i could have been more helpful^^
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07:25<LordAzamath>Gonozal_VIII, you could but why?
07:25<LordAzamath>bot fails
07:26<SmatZ>glx is not here
07:27<LordAzamath>SmatZ, glx is the bot?
07:28<ln->done watching 4x05 [x]
07:28<SmatZ>glx has scripts to kick you for !password and similiar
07:28<yorick>that should kick me
07:28<LordAzamath>why aren't they in Dorpsgek?
07:28<yorick>they should be
07:28<LordAzamath>yorick, glx is not here.. but he has logs
07:29<LordAzamath>[14:25] <LordAzamath> !password
07:29<LordAzamath>[14:25] <LordAzamath> !wiki
07:29<LordAzamath>[14:25] <LordAzamath> !grf
07:29<LordAzamath>[14:25] <LordAzamath> ^^
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07:57<LordAzamath>:O.. I was kicked :O
07:58<yorick>that took a while
07:58<LordAzamath>I've said already I'm not watching IRC all the time :P
07:59*LordAzamath turned speakers on
08:00<Jesus_On_Wheels>u should be
08:05<LordAzamath>Jesus_On_Wheels, why?
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08:19<CIA-1>OpenTTD: truebrain * r12325 /branches/noai/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: added AIEngine:CanRefitCargo()
08:21<ln->does someone want to comment on this potential PC configuration:
08:34<lolman>ln-, sure a 500w PSU can power a quad and an 8800GT?
08:35<ln->not sure.
08:35<lolman>Think you may want something beefier
08:37<Gonozal_VIII>and that's a boring case
08:37<ln->tell me a non-boring case.
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08:39<Gonozal_VIII>build your own :-)
08:40<Patrick`>ln-: buy an expensive PSU.
08:40<Wolf01>what, castle?
08:40<Patrick`>the wattage rating tells practically no story at all
08:41<Patrick`>a cheap 500w will waste 200w as heat and fry everything when it dies which it will do within 6 months
08:41<Patrick`>an expensive one will be quiet, unassuming, cost 60 quid, and work for 10 years
08:41<Patrick`>antec, it's good, it'll be fine
08:42<Patrick`>I have an 8800 and an AMD64 off a 380
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08:42<Patrick`>aah, remember when AMD64 was *the* chip for gamers :)
08:43<ln->i'll go to the store myself to place the order, i can ask them what they think about that PSU.
08:44<SpComb>Antec's PSUs used to melt a lot, but I think recently they've gotten better in that aspect
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08:45<ln->i was considering Asus P5KC for the motherboard, but found a lot of negative comments about it by googling.
08:46<ln->i hope gigabyte is not crap.
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08:47<SpComb>It's been a long time since I looked at desktop hardware, so I don't know anything about those
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08:48*SpComb is still using the hardware that he bought in October 2005 quite happily
08:49<SpComb>runs CoD4 at 1280x1024 well enough
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08:53<ln->what do i lose if i choose GF 8600GT instead of 8800GT?
08:53<ln->would be a hundred euros cheaper.
08:53<SpComb>midrang/high end?
08:54<SpComb>I bought an almost-top-of-the-range-7800GT (only one better was the 7800GTX) for 400 €, and have been very happy using it for over two years
08:54<SpComb>as opposed to, say, having bought a 6800GT that wouldn't be able to run CoD4 sensibly
08:56<ln->then again, i mostly need 3D acceleration for X-Plane nowadays.
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10:10<yorick>where is yapp_followtrack gone?
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10:11<Eddi|zuHause3>yorick: apply a patch only to the exact revision it was written for
10:11<yorick>that makes no sense when trying to update one
10:11<SmatZ>yorick: it is gone
10:11<yorick>I know
10:11<SmatZ>in r12252
10:12<Eddi|zuHause3>yorick: i'd suggest let the cooder handle it himself
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10:13<aztaric>hi, im trying to install ttd on ubuntu .. but i need the orginal data files .. where can iget them?
10:13<+glx>on your TTD cd
10:13<ln->from your original TTD CD.
10:13<hylje>(or floppies?)
10:14<Eddi|zuHause3>i have never heard of ttd floppies
10:15<SmatZ>TTO was on floppies
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10:16<Eddi|zuHause3>my TTO was 2 floppies worth of data put on a CD
10:18<hylje>'cause i recall a TT on floppies
10:21<SpComb>is there some develop-openttd-on-win32 howto somewhere?
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10:21<Slowpoke>I got an error: I wonder if its from openttd itself or related to a (poor coded) grf-file?
10:23<SmatZ>Slowpoke: how did this happen?
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10:23<Slowpoke>simply popped up, I did nothing...
10:24<LordAzamath>Well you obviously did something..
10:24<Slowpoke>I installed some new grfs and played for like 15 minutes or so and then it happened
10:24<LordAzamath>Did you have any grfs?
10:24<SmatZ>it could be a town growing
10:25<+glx>Slowpoke: beta3?
10:26<+glx>you can reproduce it?
10:26<Slowpoke>I will try
10:26<SmatZ>Slowpoke: did you switch GRFs during gameplay?
10:27*LordAzamath reboots to linux as new #openttdcoop game is starting soon
10:27<+glx>don't do that :)
10:27<SmatZ>LordAzamath: no
10:28<LordAzamath>I just was pressing reboot button
10:28<Slowpoke>I got that error yesterday after installing a town-replacement-set and I uninstalled that set afterwards, but it happened again...
10:28<LordAzamath>and tyou said don't do it.. :P
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10:28<SmatZ>LordAzamath: I said something?
10:29<SmatZ>Slowpoke: 1x1 building could be replaced by something that is not 1x1 building
10:29<SmatZ>so house properties changed
10:29<SmatZ>and this assert came later
10:29<SmatZ>nothing can be done with that
10:29<SmatZ>do not change GRFs during gameplay, there is a big red warning about it :)
10:30<+glx>theorically it should be safe as the new building is reverted to old type
10:31<SmatZ>if you have city full of 1x1 buildings
10:31<SmatZ>that are replaced by 2x2 buildings
10:31<SmatZ>theoretically :)
10:31<SmatZ>then they will be build each over another
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10:36<LordAzamath>#join #openttdcoop
10:36<Slowpoke>I updated to latest nightly and now have to wait and see, thank you guys :)
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11:59<yorick>it works again :)
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12:11<Eddi|zuHause3>you are a hero yorick
12:12<+glx>yorick: when did it failed?
12:12<yorick>this morning
12:12<+glx>it works only when I'm here
12:12<SmatZ>when you were not here, glx :-P
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12:31<Sacro>dare i do /rim
12:31<yorick>I didn't know that it was possible to change apearance of void tiles using grf's :o
12:32<SmatZ>yorick: it's nice - is it at #openttdcoop ?
12:33<Sacro>yorick: grfs
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12:43<Ammler>I thought, bijarny made a kick for such commands here?
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12:43<yorick>it was gllx
12:44<Ammler>ah, he was kicked, but tried again :-)
12:45*glx adds more things to the kicker :)
12:47<+glx>not this one :)
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12:47<Sacro>heh, !bjarni would be awesome
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14:21<Cosmo>have any of you had this happen to you?
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14:22<hylje>nice zoomlevel
14:22<Sacro>holy carp
14:22<Gonozal_VIII>hehe nice
14:22<Cosmo>I have no idea how I got this :/
14:23<Cosmo>I was just playing on the arctic level tho
14:23<Gonozal_VIII>did you open the opntitle.dat file?
14:24<Cosmo>I just abandoned a game and got that
14:24<Cosmo>I also had a bug where a message would come up saying a train has made a lose
14:25<Gonozal_VIII>in some old versions you could scroll around and zoom the title game if the game exits while you had the right mouse button pressed... but afaik that's fixed
14:25<Sacro>hmm, i wonder if it doesn't reset the zoom levels
14:25<Cosmo>but the amount it said it lose was millions :/
14:25<Gonozal_VIII>yes, that bug is known
14:26<Cosmo>only on the 6.0beta-4 tho
14:27<Cosmo>well if you want me I can be found on
14:28<Cosmo>okay I made a game, zoomed in a far as I could and then abandoned it
14:29<Cosmo>I still get that screen shot I sent you
14:29<Sacro>heh, LFS
14:29<Sacro>now there's a fun day
14:29<Yorick>it seems like your opentitle.dat got zoomed out
14:29<Cosmo>day? I wish
14:29<Sacro>i did LFS in a day on an errr...
14:29<Sacro>athlon 1800 i think
14:29<Cosmo>gcc takes 7 hours on one of my computers
14:29<Sacro>then i stripped the libraries ><
14:29<Cosmo>if I helps I use the nick Cosmo for everything
14:29<Sacro>had to start again
14:30<Cosmo>Yorick, I've quit the whole program and reopened it and it's gone back to normal
14:31<Gonozal_VIII>remove the opntitle.dat from your data dir and replace it with one from any game download
14:31<Cosmo>I've not touched it
14:31<Gonozal_VIII>so it does seem to save the zoomlevel
14:32<SmatZ>rather the zoom-out input was not dropped as it should in the GM_MENU mode
14:32<SmatZ>or a random memory corruption happened :-P
14:33<SmatZ>or the zoom level was not reset
14:34<Cosmo>how are the new AI coming alone?
14:34<Cosmo>they don't seem to go bankrupt as fast and the ordinal AI :/
14:35<SmatZ>it is under development
14:35<SmatZ>or, whet do you mean by "new AI"? do you mean that "New AI" that is able to build only road vehicles?
14:36<SmatZ>I think it won't be developed any more...
14:36<SmatZ>but the "NoAI" branch is
14:41<Patrick`>iirc wasn't that the branch that allowed scripted AI
14:42<Patrick`>I guess it's getting more stuff
14:42<SmatZ>well, yes
14:42<Patrick`>does it still fill every town with buses and promptly explode them to cover the entire map?
14:43<SmatZ>I don't know, I think the only official AI is that one that makes airports...
14:46<Cosmo>the orginal AI keep going out of business cos they built tracks with 90' turns in
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14:59<SpComb>hmm... what do I need to do to fix the "The current font is missing some of the characters used in the text for thsi language" error that I get when I compile OpenTTD myself?
14:59<SpComb>and hrmph, win32 smells
15:00<SmatZ>use different language ot different font
15:00<SmatZ>for example, arial
15:00<SpComb>hmm... where does it determine the language to use, or where can I determine what language it's using at the moment?
15:01<SmatZ>what language? you are probably using the finnish language
15:02<SpComb>so I suspect, I think I have my windows locale set to Finland
15:02<SmatZ>probably... openttd detects your language
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15:03<SmatZ>change OpenTTD language to English and you will get rid of that message
15:03<SmatZ>or use different font
15:07<LordAzamath>we've got 32-bpp Sergey in forums again.. :O
15:08<SmatZ>I like how it looks
15:09<+glx>LordAzamath: you see the red ! on a blue button in bottom of post?
15:09<SmatZ>what's wrong with Sergej?
15:09<LordAzamath>glx, I do
15:09<+glx>click on it
15:09<LordAzamath>but I don't know what has he done again..
15:09<+glx>and make a report
15:09<LordAzamath>(c) violation?
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15:10<LordAzamath>was he banned once too?
15:13<SpComb>well hmm, the in-game language is certainly english (all the menus etc are in english), but it's still complaing about the fonts
15:14<LordAzamath>glx, report made
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15:15<SmatZ>LordAzamath: why did you report it?
15:15<+glx>SpComb: you build svn without svn
15:16<+glx>norev000 fails to load ottd grfs
15:16<+glx>and they contains some chars
15:16<SpComb>ah... it's built from the git repo
15:16<SpComb>what do I need to do to not build svn?
15:16<+glx>configure --revision=
15:17<SpComb>win32/visual studio
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15:22<SpComb>ok, I changed the bit in the openttd_newgrf_version to 0xffffffff and it loads
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15:51<SpComb> <-- win32 IPv6 works in terms of basic functionality \o/
15:53*Ammler is wondering, if ipv6 will ever be used...
15:53<Eddi|zuHause3><Patrick`> does it still fill every town with buses and promptly explode them to cover the entire map? <- that is rather a "bug" in the game mechanics, not in the AI
15:54<Gonozal_VIII>it has to ammler... the current ips will run out eventually
15:55<SpComb>Ammler: slowly but surely
15:56<Ammler>hmm, was ipv6 before or after NAT introduced?
15:58<SpComb>IPv6 is (amongst other things) a solution to the NAT problem
16:00<Wolf01>meh... i don't know why ttdpatch refuses to start if i change the resolution.. it always prompt about not recognized program version blah blah... i give up and i'll try with the new pbs patch on ottd
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16:01<DJ-Nekk|d>how many possible addresses do IPv6 have? FFFF^6 ?
16:06<Eddi|zuHause3>DJ-Nekk|d: more like ^8
16:06<Wolf01>and i give up with ottd too -.-''' (why people don't make patches in a way that everybody can use?)
16:07<Gonozal_VIII>in a way that everybody can use? what do you mean?
16:07<Wolf01>i can't patch it with tortoise
16:07<Gonozal_VIII>why not?
16:08<Wolf01>because it doesn't recognize the patch format
16:08<Gonozal_VIII>ah i see... which patch?
16:08<Eddi|zuHause3>got the wrong file?
16:09<Wolf01>both give the same error
16:09<Gonozal_VIII>both of what?^^ yapp?
16:09<Wolf01>"index not found... blablah the diff is empty?"
16:09<Gonozal_VIII>yes that doesn't work with tortoise
16:10<Wolf01>eh, i noticed :)
16:10<Eddi|zuHause3>use patch.exe from mingw/cygwin
16:10<Eddi|zuHause3>if it's a git diff, patch -p1 -i <file>
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16:12<Eddi|zuHause3>and it's windows/tortoise that is broken, not the patch
16:13<Wolf01>grr msys doesn't paste with rightclick
16:15<Eddi|zuHause3>you can run all these programs from cmd, too
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16:40<SpComb>hmm, interesting, it seems IPv6 TCP traffic between the guest vm and the host machine is broken with vmware
16:41<SpComb>that kind of sucks
16:43<Gonozal_VIII>then don't use ipv6?^^
16:47<SpComb>not really a solution when I'm trying to test the IPv6 functionality of some application
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17:27<Gonozal_VIII>every time i read that dragonhorseboy nick, i think of the southpark manbearpig
17:29<Eddi|zuHause3>you watch too much south park :p
17:30<Gonozal_VIII>it's not possible to watch too much southpark
17:30<Eddi|zuHause3>yes it is, you are living proof of that
17:31<Gonozal_VIII>am not
17:36<Tefad>half man half bear half pig.
17:37<Gonozal_VIII>that's 3/2!
17:37<Tefad>that's the point.
17:37<Gonozal_VIII>your line would have been: i know, it's huge!
17:38<Eddi|zuHause3>err... no, it's not 3/2!, it's 3/2
17:38<Tefad>har har factorial.
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17:55<XeryusTC><Gonozal_VIII> it's not possible to watch too much southpark <- i have to agree with that!
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17:56<Eddi|zuHause3>denial is one of the main symptoms of an addiction
17:56<ben_goodger>no, it's not
17:57<Eddi|zuHause3>see ;)
17:58<ln->damnit, i was going to go order a new computer tomorrow, but now i noticed there will be a new C2Q processor coming within a few weeks or even days. one that is only slightly more expensive.
17:59<Gonozal_VIII>there's always new hardware that is only slightly more expensive right after you bought something
18:00<Gonozal_VIII>and i'm not southpark addicted at all... i didn't watch any new episodes since 1114
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18:00<Eddi|zuHause3>11:14 is a movie
18:01<ln->i know, but if the new ones are already on the market when i go get the computer on friday or next week, then that'll be annoying.
18:02<Eddi|zuHause3>ln-: after the cebit, you can usually get older hardware for much less price
18:03<ln->does that apply to PC components? i assosiacete CeBIT more with cell phones.
18:03<Eddi|zuHause3>i have never felt the need to buy the top gear equipment, when you can get last years equipment for 50% of the price
18:04<Eddi|zuHause3>you then use the computer for like 4 years instead of 5, but that is still much cheaper
18:04<ln->that is true of course.
18:06<ben_goodger>the trouble I have is that my RAM is bottlenecking the whole system
18:06<ben_goodger>DDR sucks!
18:06<Eddi|zuHause3>then buy new ones?
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18:06<ben_goodger>however, to upgrade it I will need to buy a new mobo, ram and processor at the same time
18:06<Eddi|zuHause3>that is the usual problem with upgrading
18:07<Eddi|zuHause3>you might as well buy a complete system
18:08<ln->strictly speaking, all the things currently on my list are "last year's equipment", from 2007.
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18:12*Slowpoke is on '03 equipment :(
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18:13<Eddi|zuHause3>yeah, i have something similar
18:13<ln->i need 4 cores to be able to use firefox.
18:14<Slowpoke>so don't use firefox :p
18:14<ln->i hope it is properly multi-threaded.
18:14<ln->Slowpoke: give me a proper alternative and i'll consider changing.
18:15<Slowpoke>I'm in love with Opera
18:15<ln->not acceptable: it loses key presses when typing an url.
18:15<Slowpoke>but anyway, firefox shouldn't use much of your CPU
18:15<Eddi|zuHause3>i use konqueror
18:16<Slowpoke>it doesn't for me, but sometimes it fails opening three or more wepbages at one time...
18:16<ln->also Opera is packaged for Linux by a badly trained chimpanzee.
18:17<Slowpoke>okay Im using windows
18:17<ln->or what else can be the fucking point of leaving all the localisation files out of the package, and letting users manually install them if they want to use Opera in some other language than English?
18:18<ln->i should file a bug about English being in the package.
18:18<Slowpoke>is there still no international package for linux?
18:19<Slowpoke>use Dillo ;D
18:19<ln->the last time i checked, i don't remember seeing one.
18:19<Slowpoke>hm I haven't used linux in about one year...
18:21<ln->(i don't see a list)
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18:22<Slowpoke>okay you're right
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18:38<Tefad>flash sucks the life out of my firefox.
18:38<Tefad>or any browser.
18:38<Tefad>50% cpu just idling at the end of a youtube video
18:40<Patrick`>you on a dual core?
18:40<Eddi|zuHause3>but flash has nothing to do with the browser, it's a plugin
18:40<Patrick`>it's probably bugged and pegging one of them
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18:59<ln->multiple flashes per page is a sure way to bring fx to an unusable state.
19:00<ln->that's why i'm forced to use Adblock.
19:00<SmatZ>java works even better
19:00<SmatZ>if it is supported
19:01<ln->but something's also wrong either with firefox or the flash plugin.
19:01<ln->on my iBook G4, multiple flashes do not cause any significant slow-down.
19:01<SmatZ>I am running 64bit firefox and 32bit flash plugin, so I expect problems...
19:01<ln->(Mac OS X, Safari)
19:01<SmatZ>though I do not remember any problems with 32bit firefox
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20:59<SmatZ>interesting, when I send ICMP packet with IPv6 header, I get reply in ICMPv6 format
20:59<SmatZ>or so
21:00<Eddi|zuHause2>it's a feature
21:00<Eddi|zuHause2>or so
21:04<SmatZ>iptraf doesn't correctly recognize ICMPv6 packets
21:05<Eddi|zuHause2>i'm sure you'll find lots more of these ;)
21:05<Eddi|zuHause2>you better report them ;)
21:06<SmatZ>if I am doing something wrong, let me know :)
21:06<Eddi|zuHause2>i have exactly zero experience with ipv6
21:07<SmatZ>me too, neither I am not skilled in ipv4 :)
21:07<SmatZ>so everything is new and exciting for me
21:08<SmatZ>I have just done IPv4 ping and I am "upgrading" it to IPv6
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21:36<SmatZ>wow! works :)
21:40<SmatZ>is it from a movie?
21:40*Sacro hands Tefad the prize
21:40<Tefad>we don't neeeed no eeeeducaaaation..
21:41*SmatZ should listen to Pink Floyd again
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21:50<CIA-1>OpenTTD: truebrain * r12326 /3rdparty/squirrel/squirrel/ (sqcompiler.cpp sqfuncstate.cpp sqopcodes.h sqvm.cpp): (log message trimmed)
21:50<CIA-1>OpenTTD: [Squirrel] -Fix: Squirrel doesn't free local variables directly when going out of scope (not a bug, just a design-option).
21:50<CIA-1>OpenTTD: This means destructors (dtors) aren't always called, and for sure not at any logic point.
21:50<CIA-1>OpenTTD: As NoAI framework kind of assumes a certain order of ctor/dtor, this gave a lot of side-effects.
21:50<CIA-1>OpenTTD: Therefor we added _OP_SCOPE_END, which indicates the end of scope to the VM, and releases all local variables when you expect them to, calling the dtors when you expect them to.
21:50<CIA-1>OpenTTD: (a lot of tnx to glx for suggestions, ideas, fixing, his time, ...;
21:50<CIA-1>OpenTTD: tnx to Morloth in his effort to understand the problem,
21:54<Sacro>Can you hear the drums fernando?
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