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---Logopened Tue Oct 14 00:00:36 2008
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03:13<dih>i dont believe 1&1
03:13<dih>what a rubbish company
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04:55<dih>so a bug in make is causing the hash in a function to be interpreted as a comment :-P
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04:58<TrueBrain>dih: only for Ammlers his make :p
04:58<dih>i have 3.81 and still have that bug
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04:58<dih>i was just wondering about it
04:58<TrueBrain>ah, .src, k k :p
04:58<TrueBrain>morning all! :)
04:58<dih>hello :-)
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05:00<dih>so there is a reason to move away from the old delimiter, but the hash aint the best solution :-P
05:00<dih>i could expect a bunch of other systems having issues with using that flag
05:01<dih>morphos? :-P
05:03<dih>TrueBrain: what version of make is on the compile farm?
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05:06<TrueBrain>who cares? :P
05:07<dih>my curiosity :-)
05:07<dih>all the IN maintainers will care
05:08<TrueBrain>I really don't feel like loogging in there, to look into it
05:08<TrueBrain>no, they won't
05:08<dih>those who create IN's with client-only patches
05:08<dih>so others can still run on all other nighlies
05:08<dih>well - i assume one could just edit
05:08<TrueBrain>still don't see it ..
05:09<TrueBrain>the compile-farm does NOT compile IN binaries
05:09<TrueBrain>(and most likely never will)
05:09<dih>ah - true
05:09<dih>the compilefarm used to create our wwottdgd builds ;-)
05:10<dih>yeah - ok, we can simple modify :-P
05:12<TrueBrain>and you really expect this problem to exist to the end of times?
05:13<TrueBrain>boy, you don't know developers at all, do you? :)
05:14<dih>Boy - you really think i would ask this if i did not know some things to move slower than others?
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05:14<dih>you really think i would bother you with something i dont think could happen in the next 3-4 weeks?
05:14<dih>you really think i just want to annoy you
05:14<dih>perhaps i was wondering and looking to find a way to help fix it
05:14<TrueBrain>on a scale from 1 to 10? :) :)
05:14<dih>ever occured to you?
05:15<dih>i love the fact that you can just put people into boxes so well TrueBrain
05:15<TrueBrain>dih: please don't forget to take your pills :)
05:15<dih>esp those you ought to know a wee bit better
05:15<TrueBrain>I love ignore lists
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05:19<TrueBrain>morning Brianetta
05:20<Brianetta>Good morning to you.
05:25<TrueBrain>what a lovely IRC client this is ... I can extend my ignore list to include *!* ..... and no way to remove it from the type-line
05:25<TrueBrain>oh happy days :p
05:35<roboboy>who wrote openttd's windows installer?
05:35<TrueBrain>does it matter who?
05:36<roboboy>a current dev?
05:36<roboboy>just wondering
05:36<TrueBrain>why does it matter? :)
05:36<roboboy>or a current community member?
05:37<TrueBrain>(serious wondering what it adds who wrote it :) All I can see what matters is the current state :))
05:37<TrueBrain>try 'svn blame' if you really want to know :)
05:38<@Rubidium>or svn log
05:38<roboboy>ill ask a new question. Do any of the current developers fully understande the code?
05:38<TrueBrain>roboboy: without doubt there is enough knowledge to understand the code
05:38<TrueBrain>so I suggest just asking the question you want to ask :)
05:39<roboboy>ok ill ask it when it needs asking
05:40<TrueBrain>morning Rubidium
05:41<@Rubidium>anyhow, svn blame will show you that a TrueLight did commit quite a lot of it
05:41<TrueBrain>really? r1?
05:41<roboboy>or how does the installer use the ttd registry key to get the ttd install path? I understand that it is stored in the registry, but how does the installer use it
05:42<Brianetta>I'm pretty sure there's an API to the registry
05:42<roboboy>there is
05:43<Brianetta>wouldn't it be funny if it called regedit?
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05:43<TrueBrain>roboboy: use 'grep'
05:43<roboboy>but I tried reading the code to understand it and got lost
05:43<TrueBrain>look for HKLM
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05:44<roboboy>oh how do I use svn blame from tortoise
05:44<TrueBrain> :p
05:44<Brianetta>Doesn't Windows/Tortoise have the command line tools?
05:44<TrueBrain>(sorry, I don't use it, so use the help :p)
05:44*Rubidium redirects roboboy to Tortoise's manual
05:44<Brianetta>Tortoise isn't half a funny name anyway
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05:46<@Rubidium>but then... maybe roboboy doesn't know how to read/understand it
05:46<TrueBrain>Rubidium: uncalled for :)
05:46<@Rubidium>hmm... so... roboboy is an AI trying to pretend to be a human: Turing test failed
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05:47<TrueBrain>Rubidium: he lasted longer then the one of the last weekend :p
05:47<Brianetta>Reading Uni is running Turing tests for real
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05:48<@Rubidium>TrueBrain: he actually switch the human controlling roboboy with an AI over the weekend
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05:48<TrueBrain>morning Celestar :)
05:48<TrueBrain>see what you did Rubidium! :)
05:49<@Rubidium>yup, I sent it back to the drawing board
05:49<TrueBrain>design a better one yourself :p
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05:51<@Celestar>morning TrueBrain
05:52<TrueBrain>how was your weekend? Cargodest productive? :p
05:52<@Celestar>TrueBrain: I got overloaded with work :(
05:52<@Celestar>situation will continue for the next 2.5 weeks :(
05:52<TrueBrain>sucks :)
05:53<TrueBrain>good luck!!!
05:57<@Celestar>thanks :D
05:58<@Celestar>and currently I'm sitting at home, caring for my sister (she's been taken ill) and copying 12GB of data to work upon over my stupid DSL line
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06:01<TrueBrain>I hope she gets better soon :)
06:03<@Celestar>yeah she will
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06:15<TrueBrain>haha, cool name :)
06:15<Brianetta>babyottd is a bot who might one day pass a turing test
06:16<Brianetta>just a baby right now
06:16<Brianetta>but will learn from us
06:16<Brianetta>and, unfortunately, Jolteon
06:16<TrueBrain>what can he do?
06:16<babyottd>Pyborg commands:
06:16<babyottd>!checkdict, !contexts, !help, !known, !learning, !rebuilddict, !replace, !unlearn, !purge, !version, !words, !limit, !alias, !save, !censor, !uncensor, !owner
06:16<babyottd>IRC Module Commands:
06:16<babyottd>!chans, !ignore, !join, !nick, !part, !quit, !quitmsg, !reply2ignored, !replyrate, !shutup, !stealth, !unignore, !wakeup, !talk, !owner
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06:16<Brianetta>not an awful lot
06:17<Brianetta>just chat
06:17<TrueBrain>well, CHAT!
06:17*keyweed_ rises
06:17<Brianetta>I guess he doesn't have enough words yet
06:17<babyottd>I know 50 words (58 contexts, 1.16 per word), 12 lines.
06:18<TrueBrain>so we
06:18<TrueBrain>just need
06:18<TrueBrain>to feed him
06:18<TrueBrain>more stupid stuff?
06:18<babyottd>I am a version 1.1.0 PyBorg
06:18<@Rubidium>especially about interesting dilemma's
06:18<keyweed_>pyborg oO
06:19<@Rubidium>or maybe teach him some lemmas
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06:20<@Rubidium>though it's questionable whether it'll become viable replacement for the stupid people joining here all the time
06:20<TrueBrain>Brianetta: I really like its name, can't help it :)
06:23<babyottd>cool name : )
06:23<Brianetta>He said his first words (:
06:23<TrueBrain>stupid similies (even worse then yours)
06:23*Rubidium slaps babyottd
06:24<@Rubidium>:O (s)he doesn't cry... great upbringing
06:24<babyottd>it : )
06:24<Brianetta>!replyrate 2
06:25*Rubidium ponders feeding babyottd some lorem ipsum ;)
06:25<TrueBrain>babyottd: no, it is ET
06:25<Brianetta>!ignore from CIA
06:25<TrueBrain>it is no show ..
06:25<babyottd>TrueBrain : i really like its name, can't help it
06:26<Brianetta>He's working on it.
06:26<TrueBrain>babyottd: please don't repeat me
06:26<Brianetta>Not enough context yet for things that aren't just repeats.
06:26<babyottd>he doesn't have enough words yet
06:26<keyweed_>feed it some slayer lyrics :D
06:26<TrueBrain>Sed ut perspiciatis, unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium, totam rem aperiam eaque ipsa, quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt, explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem, quia voluptas sit, aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos, qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt, neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum, quia dolor sit, amet, consectetur,
06:26<TrueBrain>adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt, ut labore et dolore
06:26<@Celestar>Lorem Ipsum
06:27<Brianetta>Great. Now he's going to save them until somebody says something in latin.
06:27<babyottd>( : )
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06:27<TrueBrain>palma non sine pulvere
06:27*Rubidium hopes S acro doesn't see that reply of babyottd
06:27<TrueBrain>(no rewards without effort)
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06:28<babyottd>Brianetta : i really like its name, can't cry
06:28<Brianetta>He can teach
06:28<keyweed_>#/msg babyottd catgz /usr/doc/*/*gz
06:28<Brianetta>deep, deep inside your intestines
06:28<babyottd>keyweed_ rises
06:28<TrueBrain>can't cry, LOL!
06:28<babyottd>name, can't repeat me
06:29<babyottd>do ?
06:29<Brianetta>and we have reached critical mass.
06:29<Brianetta>that's deep
06:29<babyottd>hopes s acro doesn't cry, lol !
06:29*Brianetta hugs babyottd
06:30<@Rubidium>maybe we should start about bogies, catenaries and such
06:30<TrueBrain>it is already as annoying as some users :p
06:30<Brianetta>and maybe some owen rudge references
06:31<@Rubidium>babyottd: bogie is a low strongly built car
06:31<babyottd>it is et
06:31<@Rubidium>rather the other way around
06:31<Brianetta>what is bogey?
06:31<babyottd>stuff ?
06:32<@Rubidium>babyottd: what word can be described as "the curve assumed by a cord of uniform density and cross section that is perfectly flexible but not capable of being stretched and that hangs freely from two fixed points"
06:32<babyottd>do ?
06:32<@Rubidium>try again
06:32<Brianetta>go on babyottd
06:32<Brianetta>he's thinking
06:33<Brianetta>about the curve
06:33<babyottd>rather the other way around
06:33*Doorslammer notes the current painfulness of watching this train wreck of an IRC chat
06:33<TrueBrain>the other way around?
06:33<Brianetta>Doorslammer (:
06:33<babyottd>Brianetta : please don't see that reply of babyottd
06:33<babyottd>about the curve
06:34<TrueBrain>about the curve?
06:34<TrueBrain>you still don't make sense
06:34<Brianetta>It's best to ignore him for a bit
06:34<babyottd>on Brianetta is a bot who might one day pass
06:34<Brianetta>pass the turing test, yes
06:34<babyottd>rather the other way around
06:34<TrueBrain>hahahahaha :)
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06:34<@Celestar>xfs is NOT happy with the device being unplugged in the middle of a write :P
06:34<babyottd>day pass a turing test, yes
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06:34<Doorslammer>I may have to Tango slap someone in a minute
06:34<TrueBrain>Celestar: devices rarely are .. not related to xfs :p
06:35<Brianetta>hey gekz
06:35<Gekz>whats up
06:35<Brianetta>Please try not to engage babyottd in any deep or meaningful conversation.
06:35<Brianetta>He's only ten minutes old.
06:35<TrueBrain>and the other bot joins
06:35<TrueBrain>welcome Gekz
06:35<babyottd>and we have reached critical mass
06:35<babyottd>TrueBrain : i really like its name, can't repeat me
06:35<TrueBrain>Brianetta: but it is cool to try ;)
06:35<babyottd>dolorem ipsum, )
06:35<Gekz>TrueBrain: wilkommen.
06:36<@Rubidium>should babyottd be seen as facetious?
06:36<babyottd>bogey ?
06:36<Doorslammer>Et tu, numbnuts?
06:36<Gekz>babyottd: you is bot?
06:36<Brianetta>Rubidium: He learns from us, so.. yeah.
06:36<Doorslammer>Bloody pillock, more like
06:36<@Celestar>TrueBrain: yeah :P
06:36<Brianetta>!ignore CIA-1
06:36<babyottd>it is no show
06:36<@Celestar>TrueBrain: accidently unplugged the wrong device.
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06:37<Gekz>lol babyottd IS a bot
06:37<babyottd>you is bot ?
06:37<@Celestar>TrueBrain: because my external HDD has 2 USB plugs :(
06:37<babyottd>( :
06:37<@Rubidium>babyottd: do you have a savings account at Icesave?
06:37<TrueBrain>Celestar: sucks ...
06:37<babyottd>TrueBrain : he said his first words (
06:37<Brianetta>ICE is a train
06:37<babyottd>just a baby right now
06:37<TrueBrain>I agree with babyottd: Gekz is a bot
06:37<babyottd>i really like its name, can't help it : )
06:37<Gekz>I hate you people bringing me into confusing situations
06:37<@Celestar>TrueBrain: the again, it doesn't need external power, it pulls all from the USB ports, but since my laptop only has two USB ports ...
06:37<@Rubidium>TrueBrain: no, "Gekz is bot"
06:37<Doorslammer>I blame this all on Putin you know
06:37<babyottd>no, Rubidium is a train
06:38<Ammler>Celestar: the 2. is for more power
06:38<TrueBrain>lol @ babyottd
06:38<Gekz>cat is dog
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06:38<Ammler>but mostly not needed anymore, is it?
06:38<@Celestar>Ammler: yeah I know
06:38<Ammler>I never needed that.
06:38<babyottd>i guess he doesn't cry
06:38<@Celestar>Ammler: the drive doesn't spin up without the 2nd one.
06:38*Doorslammer writes in purple for a change
06:38<Gekz>Celestar: WD?
06:38<babyottd>she doesn't see that reply of babyottd
06:38<babyottd>it ?
06:38<@Celestar>Ammler: once it is connected, it works :)
06:38<babyottd>Rubidium : please don't cry
06:38<@Rubidium>oeps ;)
06:38<babyottd>try, )
06:38<@Celestar>Gekz: dunno actually (=
06:38<babyottd>slaps babyottd some lorem ipsum, )
06:38<babyottd>Celestar : accidently unplugged the wrong device
06:39<Gekz>Celestar: I hate multiple usb plug drives
06:39<Gekz>Celestar: I have a usb->sata adapter
06:39<Gekz>takes AC power and a usb cord
06:39<babyottd>and we have reached critical mass
06:39<babyottd>hdd has 2 usb plugs : (
06:39<Gekz>much more appropriate for me
06:39<Doorslammer>Excuse me, Im off on a murdering spree now
06:39<babyottd>pillock, more like
06:39<babyottd>working on it
06:39<roboboy>does the installer directly store the ttd install dir in a variable and use the variable or does it use the location from the registry directly or some other way?
06:39<Gekz>what's with the spamming bot.
06:39<TrueBrain>pillock? Where did he learn that word?
06:39<babyottd>Gekz is a bot
06:39<Gekz>it sounds like a russian
06:40<Doorslammer>Berk berk berk
06:40<Gekz>babyottd, you make me hate russians
06:40<Gekz>like a fox
06:40<@Celestar>I wish I had my upgrade to 16MBit finally :S
06:40<@Celestar>2MBit sucks for work
06:40<Brianetta>Doorslammer is a berk
06:40<babyottd>best to ignore him for a bit
06:40<@Rubidium>babyottd: is one of your building blocks desoxyribonucleic acid?
06:40<babyottd>replacement for the stupid people joining here all
06:40<@petern>Celestar... isn't XFS a journalling filesystem?
06:40<@Celestar>petern: yes.
06:40<Gekz>petern: XFS is a toy.
06:40-!-mode/#openttd [+o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek
06:40*Doorslammer shoves a Pravda up babyottd's...
06:40-!-mode/#openttd [+q babyottd!] by TrueBrain
06:40<Gekz>that'll learn the bot
06:40<@TrueBrain>Brianetta: we unmute it after an hour or so ;)
06:40<@petern>And this, isn't "device removed" supposed to be......
06:40<@petern>What the fuck
06:40<Brianetta>TrueBrain: unmte it for lolz
06:40<@Celestar>petern: but it requires some manual intervention when unplugging the device ...
06:41<Gekz>Brianetta: it's Lulz
06:41-!-mode/#openttd [-q babyottd!] by TrueBrain
06:41<@Celestar>Gekz: I think it's a seagate
06:41<@Celestar>120GB 2.5"
06:41<babyottd>i guess he doesn't cry
06:41<@TrueBrain>@kick Doorslammer repeating yourself, aren't we?
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06:41<Brianetta>He's ignoring me
06:41<babyottd>excuse me, im off on a murdering spree now
06:41<babyottd>maybe we should start about bogies, catenaries and such
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06:41<@TrueBrain>Brianetta: I like it chatting like that, just I wonder what it chats after an hour ;)
06:42<Brianetta>I'm going to screen him
06:42<babyottd>to feed him
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06:42<@TrueBrain>WTF?! 'murdering spree' :s
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06:42<Gekz>it's already on a killing spree
06:42<Gekz>that didnt take long
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06:42<Doorslammer>I heartily approve, should be a laugh anyhow seeing a murderous robot in Russia in the press tomorrow
06:42<Brianetta>He's in mute mode
06:43<Brianetta>but he's listening to us
06:43-!-mode/#openttd [-o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek
06:43<TrueBrain>tnx Brianetta :) Turn it back on in an hour or so :p
06:43<Brianetta>He's supposed to respond to my commands, too, but apparently is a rebellious bastard
06:43<Doorslammer>So what dumb purpose is that 'thing' supposed to serve?
06:44<TrueBrain>so he is learning ;)
06:44<TrueBrain>Doorslammer: we wonder the same about you
06:44<Brianetta>[10:46] <Rubidium> hmm... so... roboboy is an AI trying to pretend to be a human: Turing test failed
06:44<Doorslammer>TrueBrain: That's because its true...
06:44<Brianetta>We're hoping that babyottd will seem more human than roboboy
06:45<Doorslammer>Its an annoying little prick
06:45<Doorslammer>Seems perfectly fine
06:45<TrueBrain>who votes for kban?
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06:46<@Rubidium>TrueBrain: would that be for someone in my ignore list or not?
06:46<TrueBrain>Rubidium: most likely ;)
06:46<TrueBrain>but I wonder if you have a whitelist ;)
06:47<@Rubidium>but as many white lists, it's completely white
06:50<babyottd>Dictionary saved
06:50<Brianetta>I might stick a babysarah in with my standard server's IRC bridge
06:50<Brianetta>that'd be amusing
06:51<Brianetta>random idiotic chat included as standard, even for solo play.
06:51<Doorslammer>Could just invite Jolteon instead
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06:54<TrueBrain>maybe you should feed it the logs of DorpsGek :p
06:55<Brianetta>I was about to feed it some of mine
06:55<Brianetta>feeding logs is tricky - you need to strip names and IRC stuff
06:56<Brianetta>Hmm, I have a few megs
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07:01<@Celestar>bridges for ships are summin cool
07:03<Brianetta>I'm going to feed babyottd some big logs, but as a warning, PyBorgs aren't as fun when they're mature
07:03<Brianetta>I'll back him up first
07:05<TrueBrain>Brianetta: why not?
07:08<A_Person>Boohaa, time for moar playingz!
07:08<TrueBrain>thank you for that contribution
07:08*Doorslammer despairs of internet spelling
07:09<A_Person>"despairs of"? hmm
07:09<A_Person>I only do that for fun :/
07:09<A_Person>Mutilating words like that
07:09<Doorslammer>Mutilating the key word of course
07:10<A_Person>But it's true, I've been asleep all night, it's time to make up for all the lost play time!
07:12<@Celestar>OpenFOAM default installation are 80000 files and 5000 folders
07:12<A_Person>Woah, foamy!
07:12<Doorslammer>Oh god
07:12<TrueBrain>woah, annoying
07:13<@Celestar>KDE takes longer to create the folders on a copy process than to actually transfer the files :P
07:13<@Celestar>heh ok .. the default installation includes the source tree
07:14<A_Person>Well, it's often like that, foam creates quickly, but try moving it to someplace else! :P
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07:17<@Celestar>FINALLY they finished the HDD upgrade on the cluster
07:17<@Celestar>lx32s3:/lproject 56T 6.5T 46T 13% /lustre_projects
07:17<@Celestar>good :D
07:17*Celestar goes generating data
07:17<TrueBrain>lol :)
07:17<A_Person>Blah, I should write an ingame chronology for the
07:17<A_Person>looking stuff up takes so long
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07:20<A_Person>Seems there's no point in rolling back the clock below 1925, there won't be any locos to work with!
07:20*Brianetta has jacked babyottd into the learning machine, Matrix-style
07:20<@Celestar>why is the ONLY thing that regularly crashes on my PC the screen-saver-password-prompt?!
07:21<TrueBrain>LOL :)
07:21<@Celestar>thus disallowing me to re-access my X session
07:22<Brianetta> 9703 brian 20 0 116m 106m 1636 R 98.7 21.1 1:51.64 python
07:22<Brianetta>ouchies (:
07:22<@Celestar>it's annoying having to log in by going to a tty, logging in as root, killing the screensaver, logging out and going back to the X session
07:23<@Celestar>ouch Brianetta
07:23<Brianetta>Celestar: Re-program your power button (:
07:23<Brianetta>Press powere, kill screensaver
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07:23<@Celestar>Brianetta: hm ... acpi button events should actually allow this
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07:23<Brianetta>They do
07:23<Brianetta>My power buttons do all sorts of things
07:23<@Celestar>I should actually do some work
07:23<Brianetta>One restarts KDM if you're not logged in
07:23<Brianetta>one just plays a sound
07:24<@Celestar>yeah I had that on my desktop
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07:24<planetmaker>[13:20] <A_Person> Seems there's no point in rolling back the clock below 1925, there won't be any locos to work with! <--- use another train set.
07:24<planetmaker>like 2cc IIRC
07:24<Brianetta>or any of Pikka's
07:25<@Celestar>it played a recorded messages "Don't hit the power button, use the logout system instead, dumbass"
07:25<planetmaker>and a road vehilce set like egrvs(?)
07:25<Brianetta>My server's power button beeps, then after five seconds, dous a double-beep
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07:25<@Celestar>some stupid abbrvtn
07:25<Brianetta>If you press it a second time before the double-beep it gracefully powers off
07:25<planetmaker>Celestar: yeah, something like that. extended generic road vehilce set or something alike.
07:25<Brianetta>This was because my wife managed to power it off with her knee at least once whilst leaning past it
07:26<Brianetta>extended generic road vehicle and tram set, I think
07:27<@Celestar>Brianetta: I usually disconnect the power button physically on such boxes.
07:27<Brianetta>Celestar: I like to be able to shut it down, though
07:27<Brianetta>It's headless
07:27<Brianetta>and if I need to move it, I power it off
07:28<@Celestar>Brianetta: yeah me too. hence a PSU with a power off button
07:28<@Celestar>switch rather
07:28<@Celestar>graceful == shutdown -h now
07:28<Brianetta>that's what my power button runs
07:28<Brianetta>the second time you press it
07:31*Brianetta is feeding in 38MB of distilled IRC log
07:31<Brianetta>THey began as nearly 100MB of regular logs
07:31<Brianetta>it's amazing how they shrink when you remove timestamps, nicks, join/part/kick etc
07:32<@Celestar>why is my dyndns failing :S
07:32<Brianetta>It's not your day.
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07:35<Brianetta>Once I put a PyBorg into a French-speaking channel
07:36<Brianetta>It learned French (:
07:36<Brianetta>unfortunately there was a channel invasion
07:36<Brianetta>and it really rapidly picked up some really bad language
07:36<Brianetta>and got kicked with thte invaders
07:36<A_Person>You think it's possible to maintain the maximum company preformance rating in the game?
07:37<@Celestar>pyborg can learn a whole language? :P
07:37<Brianetta>A_Person: Yes.
07:37*A_Person wonders wth te min and max income ratings are derived from
07:37<Brianetta>Celestar: In as much as it can learn any language, yes
07:37<Brianetta>A_Person: Your vehicles
07:38<Brianetta>You get a score for any vehicle having > max
07:38<A_Person>versus a theoretical max and min?
07:38<Brianetta>and for every vehicle having > min
07:38<Brianetta>important words are any and every
07:38<Brianetta>if any vehicle is > max, you get a score
07:39<Brianetta>if every vehicle is > min, you get a second score
07:39<A_Person>Right, well, I should spare my little brain of that difficult magic
07:39<Brianetta>I think it's 50 apiece
07:39<A_Person>linked stations count as one, right?
07:39<Brianetta>not for station count
07:40<A_Person>Hmm, so for manipulating station score one could build larger stations out of one station tiles? ;P
07:40<Brianetta>basically it counts one station for every symbol in the name bars
07:40<Brianetta>not tiles
07:40<Brianetta>symbols in name bars
07:40<Brianetta>train, bus, boat, lorry
07:40<A_Person>ah, that. Makes sense
07:41<A_Person>two linked bus-stops=one bus+truck stop=2
07:41<Brianetta>two linked bus stops = 1
07:41<Brianetta>bus stop linked with lorry stop = 2
07:41<Brianetta>there's only one symbol in the name bar of a station that only accepts buses
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08:07<@Celestar>why does my stupid repeater always lose connection to the base station :S
08:07<@Rubidium>'cause it's stupid?
08:07<CIA-1>OpenTTD: rubidium * r14463 /trunk/src/ (oldpool.h station_func.h): -Fix [FS#2348]: small possible chance of desync due to sorting on pointer instead of by (station) index (PhilSophus)
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08:09<Forked>or not? =p
08:09<@Celestar>I've two boxes. A and B. I want to backup data from A on B. To save bandwidth, I'd like to do that incrementally, and the only possible connection I have is ssh. can I somehow tunnel rsync through ssh?
08:09<@Celestar>\o Forked
08:09<@Rubidium>Celestar: yes you can
08:10<@Celestar>Rubidium: can you point me to docs on how to do this?
08:11<Brianetta>Celestar: Easily.
08:11<Brianetta>rsync -essh
08:12<@Celestar>thanks Brianetta
08:12<Brianetta>rsync -essh user@a:needsbackup/ ./backup/
08:12<Brianetta>or vice versa
08:13<Brianetta>you just need ssh and an installation of rsync
08:13<Brianetta>no rsync server required
08:15<@Celestar>heh. -r might be helpful as well :P
08:16<Brianetta>or -d
08:16<Brianetta>depending how recursive you're feeling
08:16<Brianetta>but I was assuming you know the rest of rsync
08:16<Brianetta>I was just outlining the ssh tunneling part
08:17<Ammler>i would add -az
08:17<Brianetta>I wouldn't
08:17<@Celestar>Brianetta: I am, but I just basically copied your line blindly :P
08:17<Ammler>no a no z or no both :-)
08:18<@Celestar>Ammler: I'm using -zvv most of the time anyway (=
08:18<Brianetta>no z
08:18<Brianetta>but I always use -c
08:19<@Celestar>what's wrong with -z?
08:19<Brianetta>increases load
08:19<Brianetta>Often, I also break up -a
08:19<@Celestar>but I have a thin pipe
08:19<Brianetta>since -a is an alias for -luiegtpiuerwguirgv
08:19<Ammler>if the files are big, -P could nice too.
08:20<Brianetta>It's only goof for interactive jobbies
08:20<Brianetta>not good for logging
08:20<@Celestar>I'm not logging
08:20<@Celestar>I'm doing in interactively
08:20<@Celestar>can't cron this.
08:21<Brianetta>then bung on -vv --stats --progress (:
08:22<@Celestar>opening connection using ssh -l vici otherbox rsync --server -vvlogDtprcz --partial . /media/disk/caj_dns/.
08:22<@Celestar>hm (=
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08:22<@Celestar>sounds good (=
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08:24<@Celestar>-c helps a LOT
08:24<@Celestar>since these are all ASCII files
08:26<Ammler>hmm, is there a difference to rsync -essh ?
08:26<@Celestar>Ammler: nope, that's what rsync -essh invokes
08:28<Brianetta>Celestar: -c works on binary files, too
08:28<Brianetta>it's especially good on our 16GB database file
08:28<TrueBrain>how can I make 'vim' remember where I last edited a file? :(
08:28<Brianetta>vim .vimrc
08:30<TrueBrain>not really helping yet Brianetta :p
08:30<Ammler>hmm, vim saves them on ~/.viminfo
08:30<@Celestar>sent 80354037 bytes received 252 bytes 213424.41 bytes/sec
08:30<@Celestar>total size is 399213115 speedup is 4.97
08:30<@Celestar>nice :)
08:30<@Celestar>factor 5 compression (=
08:31<TrueBrain>in Gentoo, 'vim' jumps to my last line of edit when I open a file .. in Debian it doesn't
08:31<TrueBrain>and it annoys the hell out of me
08:32<Ammler> such things makes the distro :-)
08:35<Brianetta>I wouldn't know which distros affect vim
08:35<Brianetta>since I have had the same .vimrc for over a decade
08:36<Ammler>Brianetta: default settings
08:36<Brianetta>Ammler: Yes, I understand the concept.
08:36<TrueBrain>haha, tnx, Celestar, I was looking for a single line thingy, but .. clearly it isn't :p
08:37<@Celestar>TrueBrain: no it's not :(
08:37<Brianetta>An hour and ten minutes later, and babyottd is still slurping in the logs
08:37<Ammler>Brianetta: my distro doesn't need .vimrc.
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08:37<Brianetta>Ammler: Like I said; I *wouldn't know*
08:38<Brianetta>I've had this .vimrc for years
08:38<@Celestar>TrueBrain: because you want this stuff for a number of files to remember
08:38<Brianetta>My home directory is venerable and ancient
08:38<Brianetta>-rw-r--r-- 1 brian users 514 1999-09-19 17:27 wave
08:38<Brianetta>My oldest file
08:38<Brianetta>by date alone
08:38<Brianetta>although it actually dates back to 1994
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08:39<Brianetta>when I made it
08:39<@Celestar>ok I'm off a bit
08:39<@Celestar>cu laterz :P
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08:40<TrueBrain>I wonder why Gentoo does it by default, while it is not explicit in any configure file I can find ..
08:41<Ammler>TrueBrain: no /etc/vimrc ?
09:05<A_Person>Blah, the first locomotive should be invented on the 1st of january 1925, not some random time during the year :C
09:06<Brianetta>babyottd will be too slow once he's finished learning )-:
09:08<TrueBrain>comp.y:84: error: no matching function for call to ?std::list<std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >, std::allocator<std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > > >::insert(std::string&)?
09:08<TrueBrain>/usr/include/c++/4.3/bits/list.tcc:99: note: candidates are: typename std::list<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::list<_Tp, _Alloc>::insert(std::_List_iterator<_Tp>, const _Tp&) [with _Tp = std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >, _Alloc = std::allocator<std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > >]
09:08<TrueBrain>/usr/include/c++/4.3/bits/stl_list.h:961: note: void std::list<_Tp, _Alloc>::insert(std::_List_iterator<_Tp>, size_t, const _Tp&) [with _Tp = std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >, _Alloc = std::allocator<std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > >]
09:08<TrueBrain>I love GCC :(
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09:10<Brianetta>babyottd is still the un-learned one
09:11<Brianetta>there's another instance inhaling logs
09:11<Brianetta>hey there babyottd
09:11<babyottd>there's listening to us
09:12<ln>babyottd: English Only.
09:12<babyottd>write : p
09:12<Brianetta>babyottd, don't take the piss
09:12<babyottd>i don't cry
09:12*Brianetta sighs
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09:14<Doorslammer>Its DXTR :O
09:14<Brianetta>its who?
09:14<Doorslammer>Fixed it yet?
09:14<babyottd>filesystem ?
09:14<Doorslammer>Why not
09:17<@Belugas>[09:04] <A_Person> Blah, the first locomotive should be invented on the 1st of january 1925, not some random time during the year :C <--- you are running all the fun...
09:19<@Belugas>as if inventions are waiting for the first day of the year to be launched :P
09:19<@Belugas>MORE REALISM ... NO, GIVE US LESS... ho... just when it won't bother me please...
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09:22<dih>heh - connected from
09:22<dih>for a second i thought via the webinterface
09:22<dih>but that would have ad a different ~username@
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09:22<Doorslammer>Oh, apparently not
09:22<Doorslammer>Carry on
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09:43<@Belugas>yup. prrrrrrrt
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09:58*TrueBrain puts Belugas on a XTC free diet
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10:00*Belugas cries!
10:10<ccfreak2k>Belugas, with that logic, why not have maglev trains in 1900 too?
10:13<A_Person>It just made me want to skip the year, didn't start the game in that year to wait for the train, but use it
10:15*Brianetta likes realism
10:15*Brianetta is the Antilugas
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10:31<A_Person>Blah, I feel like a retard
10:32<A_Person>I have no idea how to best make my 4 train station circle to cover 4 quarters of a small town
10:32<Gekz>by smashing the city
10:33<A_Person>no the city isn't in the way
10:33*A_Person slaps himself and just unleashes one train onto the preliminary track
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10:36<A_Person>Uhh, why can't I build rail carriages
10:36*A_Person goes mad
10:37<@Belugas>ccfreak2k, why not? why does it have to be linked to our realism?? It's just a mean of transportation, it's just a game, it's not a simulator
10:38<Sacro>Belugas: lies
10:38<Sacro>it should be a simulator
10:38<planetmaker>I want a Scotty-like transporter ;)
10:38<@Belugas>nope. it should not be. it was not built with that in mind
10:38<A_Person>transporters are lame and boring
10:39<@Belugas>and if you insist on it been a simulator, i'll start coding the constuction of bridges based on real life time
10:39<@Belugas>same as the rest
10:39<@Belugas>now you will be really happy!
10:39<Gekz>Belugas: do it
10:39<Gekz>that would be incredibly awesome
10:39<@Belugas>and don't expcet your trains to be built on a press of a button too!
10:39<Gekz>and show the trucks driving the materials there
10:39<planetmaker>construction time = length^2 * basetime * material_modificator
10:40<Gekz>wtf random number
10:40<A_Person>that's not random, that's squared!
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10:40<planetmaker>I think it takes considerably more effort to build a 1km bridge than a 500m than a 10m bridge.
10:41<planetmaker>A_Person: I think Gekz got that part :). But "2" is indeed a magic number :P
10:41<planetmaker>it's the only really odd prime ;)
10:42<A_Person>square is always nicer than cube, or hypercube
10:42<vvv444>gm, are any of the developers online? I have a question about YAPF implementation.
10:42<Eddi|zuHause2>i think starting with a certain length, the cost scales linearly
10:42<planetmaker>Eddi|zuHause2: cost: yes. Construction time: not necessarily.
10:43<Eddi|zuHause2>"time" is just a version of "cost"
10:43<Eddi|zuHause2>i mean it doesn't make a significant difference if you build 30 or 50 segments
10:43<planetmaker>time = money. money = sqrt(evil). Deduce the rest?
10:43<A_Person>not if your game measures them separately...
10:43<A_Person>simulator I meant
10:44<A_Person>Oh yeah, I forgot I still have a problem to fix
10:45<A_Person>I finally could buy me a locomotive in nov 1925, but I can't build carriages
10:45*A_Person fumes
10:45*planetmaker hands over a CO2 fire extinguisher.
10:45<Vikthor>planetmaker: actually I that for short lenghts it's the same, because some works are independent on lenght of bridge
10:45*A_Person skips a year to save himself the trouble
10:45<Vikthor>*I think
10:46<Eddi|zuHause2>A_Person: the game is designed to start in 1950, not in 1925... if you want to start early, use a NewGRF set
10:46<planetmaker>Vikthor: yes :) , I concur.
10:46<A_Person>it works perfecto when starting at 1926, I just was stupid enough to start at '25
10:47<A_Person>oh, erm, now I'm in november, well, by the end of '26 I get all the railcars I need
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10:47<A_Person>...except the passenger car...
10:48<Eddi|zuHause2>A_Person: introduction years are randomised within a window of ~2 years
10:48<A_Person>Hrm, I'll have to brand that into my brain then
10:48<A_Person>'27 it is then
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10:58<@Belugas>vvv444 : you'd have more luck asking your question then jsut saying "I've got one". But i fear i will not be able to answer you. Others might be, tough..
10:58<@Belugas>it's a bit like saying "Hey guys, I've got a cup of coffee on my desk"
10:58<@Belugas>ho yeah? no kidding...
10:58<Brianetta>I wish *I* had a cup of coffee on my desk. )-:
11:00<Eddi|zuHause2>i don't like coffee
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11:01<@Belugas>i cannot exist without coffee!
11:01<@Belugas>Brianetta, it's a vital tool @work :)
11:01<planetmaker>tea is sufficient :)
11:01<planetmaker>indeed far more appreciated here :)
11:02<Brianetta>I did have a cup of tea
11:02<Brianetta>but i eated it
11:02<Doorslammer> <--- Am I really doing my sprites wrong?
11:02<planetmaker>o_O :)
11:02<Doorslammer>I hate scale issues here
11:02<Doorslammer>Dont eat your tea
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11:02<Doorslammer>I mean...
11:02<Doorslammer>Oh I dunno
11:03<Brianetta>Doorslammer: I dunno; I don't have time for Blunck's opinions at the moment.
11:03<Doorslammer>Cool, 1-0 so far :P
11:03<Doorslammer>Dont care if that was a yes or no, feels like a goal scored :P
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11:04<Brianetta>Hey, I notice the Tyne & Wear Metros at the left (:
11:04<Brianetta>There's exactly one set in "heritage" Metro livery
11:04<Brianetta>It's coupled to a regular unit, just like you have depicted
11:04<Doorslammer>Ah, the old 4001 :)
11:05<Brianetta>Less of the old
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11:05<Brianetta>It was painted back that way, giving it one o fthe more recent coats of paint
11:05<Doorslammer>Only one in cadmium yellow and white now :(
11:05<Doorslammer>I loved that colours
11:05<Brianetta>My boss is Paul Williams. Before he worked here, he was the technical manager for Nexus Metro.
11:05<Doorslammer>Glad they wont make trams as a replacement now
11:05<Brianetta>He was there until 2002 or so
11:06<Doorslammer>Lovely work :)
11:06<vvv444>Belugas: I just don't know what's better, ask it here or write it by mail to one of the developers.
11:06<Brianetta>He's a mine of useless information
11:06<Doorslammer>Epic success
11:06<Brianetta>vvv444: Ask here or on the dev forum
11:06*Brianetta rides the Metro daily
11:06<Doorslammer>Only one problem, I dont know if the coder is still at work on them :S
11:06<Doorslammer>I did too when I was last there
11:06<vvv444>The questions is about YapfNotifyTrackLayoutChange function. Why does it has the second parameter? I think it has no reason for and just makes the code more complicated at lots of places.
11:07<Brianetta>It's kind of depressing to see all the evidence of axed lines around here
11:07<Brianetta>The Metro can act as a showcase for them
11:07<vvv444>Or maybe I just don't understand something...
11:07<Brianetta>especially on the way to Sunderland
11:07<Brianetta>You should probably ask on the YAPF thread in the dev forum
11:07<Doorslammer>Oh yes, amazing how many there are there
11:08<vvv444>I thought sending the question to KUDr, he is the auther.
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11:08<Brianetta>Good luck with that
11:09<Eddi|zuHause2>@seen KUDr
11:09<@DorpsGek>Eddi|zuHause2: KUDr was last seen in #openttd 4 weeks, 0 days, 22 hours, 15 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <KUDr> r
11:09<Brianetta>If you want answers, you'd be best addressing your questions to the largest audience
11:09<Brianetta>KUDr wrote it, but he's not the only developer who really knows about it
11:10<vvv444>Hmm, ok, I'll write it at the forum.
11:10*Doorslammer check's on dev|ant's profile
11:11<Brianetta>"Yours doesn´t look much better. Alone their height is just silly, except they´re all bi-levels ..."
11:11<Doorslammer>October 5th last visit, so he's still around it seems
11:11<Brianetta>No such animal on this island.
11:11<Doorslammer>I think he refers to them daft German coaches
11:11<Doorslammer>Its a scale issue again
11:11<Eddi|zuHause2>void YapfNotifyTrackLayoutChange(TileIndex tile, Track track); <- you mean that function? there can be two tracks on a tile which are not connected
11:11<Brianetta>So you work to a different scale to him. Big deal. Pikka's UKRS is to a larger scale than his NARS.
11:12<Brianetta>If you run them together, the American trains are all tiny compared to the UK ones, when they should be huge.
11:12<vvv444>If you see the implementation, you see that now it doesn't use any parameters at all.
11:13<Doorslammer>But if I run up to him and kick him in the bollocks ala internet forum stylee, I get in a little trouble :P
11:13<Doorslammer>So I need a subtle reply to tell him to 'get knotted'
11:13*Doorslammer is the 'anti-Worley' - I'm a good little boy ;)
11:13<Brianetta>"We're all welcome to our opinions, no matter how lame they are."
11:13<Eddi|zuHause2>no, i have not looked at yapf implementation
11:14<vvv444>Eddi: I think that if any algorithm will use the parameters in the future, it will be enough for it to have the tile index.
11:14<Eddi|zuHause2>but what exactly is your intention?
11:14<Eddi|zuHause2>why change it for changes' sake?
11:14<Doorslammer>I'll copy that, word for word :P
11:15<vvv444>Eddi: this single parameter adds houndreds of code lines at different places. It complicates the code for no reason.
11:16<vvv444>Eddi: Why do something if you don't use it at all?
11:17*Doorslammer is rather proud of this new found tact and delicacy
11:17<vvv444>Eddi: Besides, even if you write algorithm that uses the tile index, how will it use the track parameter? It doesn't say if you removed or added track.
11:17<Eddi|zuHause2>ah, so you want to improve the code that calls the function... why don't you tell that in the first place?
11:17<@Belugas>reasons i can think of: Code is unfinished, Params is required elsewhere, Code has evolved and is not cleaned up
11:18<@Belugas>vvv444, have you tried to remove the param and the extra code?
11:19<A_Person>Note to self: figure out algorithm for determining when it's more efficient to use a short train station and when a long one
11:20<vvv444>Belugas: I'm working on it, I 'greped' the whole trunk and found no YapfNotifyTrackLayoutChange implementation except for one that doesn't use the params.
11:20<Eddi|zuHause2>A_Person: that algorithim is trivial, station length = max(train length)
11:20<vvv444>The story started from me trying to implement a simple patch. Then seeing that there are lots of code that can be refactored. Started doing that. Then bumped to this one.
11:22<@Belugas>classical pattern ^_^
11:22<A_Person>thought there was a speed limit in stations
11:23<vvv444>Yeah. I'm quite crazy on clean code :)
11:23<Eddi|zuHause2>A_Person: only when the train attempts to stop, afaik
11:24<A_Person>crap, I'm losing passengers by using one train per 3 stations, have to build more trains so they don't run off
11:25<vvv444>Belugas: btw, where should I submit a patch if I come with something I think good enough for commiting? (At least I'll be happy for feedback)
11:25<A_Person>also, that algorithm doesn't help when the train length limit is turned off
11:26<@Belugas>vvv444, or forums, in the devellopemnt section
11:30<@Belugas>no prob and good luck :)
11:30<@Belugas>oh... mostly, have fun!
11:32<vvv444>sure :)
11:33<Eddi|zuHause2>A_Person: maximum length of all currently (and in reasonable future) existing trains in your network
11:34<A_Person>Well, building very long train stations can be rather tricky
11:34<A_Person>difficult predict, especially when I'd like to experiment with "pipelines" made out of trains
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11:47<planetmaker>hm... I don't need any predictor in the process of building train stations. All info I need to know is what kind of things can be delivered to the station and what kind of things are accepted by it. And that's shown....
11:50<Eddi|zuHause2>how many trains visit the station simultaneously, that is the number i build my stations with
11:51<Eddi|zuHause2>have i mentioned that i need shunting yet?
11:51<A_Person>Not a predictor, but an algorithm for my braincomputerz
11:51<A_Person>do you need shunting yet?
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11:53<planetmaker>[17:51] <Eddi|zuHause2> have i mentioned that i need shunting yet? <-- haven't heard you mention that for a long time :)
11:53<Eddi|zuHause2>yeah, at least 3 days ;)
11:53<A_Person>I'll give up on trying to figure out what you meant by that :/
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11:55<Eddi|zuHause2>parsing sentences for non-germans? base sentence = "have i mentioned (...) yet" where (...) is a minor sentence "i need shunting" with the conjunction "that"
11:56<Doorslammer>Night all, more adventures tomorrow
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11:56<A_Person>Yes but I have no idea wether you do or don't
11:57<A_Person>But that's english for meh
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11:58<@Bjarni>hello human beings
11:59<A_Person>gruh, I forgot to test what weight the weak train can pull at top speed :/
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12:00<Vikthor>Bjarni: You are inpolite to the bots :D Good afternoon to you
12:00<@Bjarni>and to Sacro too :P
12:01<@Bjarni>officially I have a week of vacation this week
12:02<@Bjarni>so far I have been at least twice as long at uni than on a normal week >_<
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12:05<@Bjarni>it goes without saying that right now I'm working on an assignment as well
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12:35<@Belugas>ho boy...
12:35<@Belugas>count the number of times "realism" is invoked...
12:36<@Belugas>makes me nauseous...
12:36<XeryusTC>Belugas: go slap them!
12:36<@Belugas>not worth starting a war :(
12:36<@Belugas>don't feel like, anyway
12:38*planetmaker hands Belugas a happyness-cookie (Glückskeks) :)
12:39<@Belugas>planetmaker, i can't accept it, TrueBrain is watching over my hourly dose of illegal substances
12:39<@Belugas>but thanks
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12:40<planetmaker>Last time I checked they were freely available in stores :)
12:41<planetmaker>I'm not talking about those cookies :P - though they may make you happy, too ;)
12:44<Eddi|zuHause2>traditionally, the translation of "Glückskeks" is "fortune cookie"
12:44<@Belugas>ho.. i see. i though they were marijuana cookies.
12:45<@Belugas>would love to, but there are at least 3 people watchig over me :S
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12:49<TrueBrain>planetmaker: don't feed the animals, please
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12:56<planetmaker>Eddi|zuHause2: thx for the vocabulary :)
12:56<planetmaker>now you mention it - yes.
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13:24<jonty-comp>so, autoreplace bug is making me desync :(
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13:25<jonty-comp>I tell my fleet of HSTs to autoreplace with Eurostars on Brianetta's Standard, and instead they all go to the depots constantly, don't autoreplace, and then I desync
13:25<jonty-comp>and as soon as they come out the depot they want to go back in again, so they jam up the station
13:28*Sacro nudges Bjarni
13:29*Prof_Frink "nudges" Sacro
13:29<@petern>obviously autoreplace does not work for them, probably due to a newgrf restriction, or less likely, a lack of money.
13:29<jonty-comp>well I have plenty of money
13:29<jonty-comp>I can't think of anything that would stop them upgrading
13:29*jonty-comp runs through the usual checklist
13:30<Wolf01>I think I found 2 bugs, the first is that the purchased land can be flooded but I must check if it happen again, the second is the real life, but I don't know if I can post it in flyspray
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13:33<jonty-comp>I guess I'll have to manually upgrade :(
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13:34<Eddi|zuHause2>jonty-comp: do they upgrade if you stop them, and hit the manual replace button in the depot?
13:34<jonty-comp>it seems not
13:34<jonty-comp>I'll check again
13:34<@petern>it could be due to r14401
13:34<@petern>(Or rather, the bug that r14401 fixes)
13:35<jonty-comp>bah, desync again
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13:35<@petern>Hmm, I guess that was not backported.
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13:36<jonty-comp>Hmm, I give up
13:36<jonty-comp>desync heaven now :p
13:36<@petern>Heh, autoreplace does that ;)
13:36<jonty-comp>I turned it off :(
13:37<@petern>I get loads of compile warnings on 0.6.3 :(
13:38<@petern>gcc 4.3
13:38<vvv444>Well, generally it
13:39<vvv444>s good
13:39<vvv444>Shows they improved the compiler :)
13:39*petern tests trunk
13:39*SpComb writes some C++ templates
13:40<@petern>All gone in trunk :D
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13:41<@SmatZ>petern: loads? I get only that "/mnt/svn/openttd/tags/0.6.3/src/misc/dbg_helpers.h: In function 'typename ArrayT<T>::item_t ItemAtT(E, T&, typename ArrayT<T>::item_t) [with E = SignalType, T = const char* [4]]':" (disappeared with YAPP - maybe because it is not inlined anymore or so)
13:42<@petern>Mostly stuff about return values, which Rubidium (I believe) has gone through and fixed for trunk.
13:43<@SmatZ>I have 4.3.2, too, and only this warning - did you try to reconfigure?
13:44<@SmatZ>amd64 though...
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14:14<@petern>SmatZ, fresh checkout, amd64 too.
14:15<@petern>(0.6.3, not trunk)
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14:39<CIA-1>OpenTTD: rubidium * r14464 /trunk/src/ (22 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: replace (uint)-1 with UINT_MAX (PhilSophus)
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14:49<CIA-1>OpenTTD: rubidium * r14465 /trunk/src/command.cpp: -Codechange: minor code style of command.cpp.
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14:52<@Belugas>My Bloody Valentine
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15:14<@SmatZ>vvv444: nice patch, too bad KUDr isn't here
15:14<vvv444>well, I'll be glad if you review and give comments on it.
15:15<vvv444>Or if one notifies KUDr
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15:27<CIA-1>OpenTTD: rubidium * r14466 /trunk/src/ (10 files in 2 dirs): -Doc: remove some obsolete parameters, fix a few parameter names in comments and add a little more doxygen documentation.
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15:29<LA>Belugas, are you not here?
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15:34<Wolf01>he's busy, work@work I believe
15:35<@Belugas>yes, i'm pretty much not here at all
15:36<LA>ok, Belugas, then I won't ask you about one patch..
15:37<@Belugas>oh God no please....
15:38<TrueBrain>omg, I just found out why I hated CVS ...
15:38<TrueBrain>I hate CVS!
15:38<frosch123>TrueBrain: try SCCS
15:39<TrueBrain>replace one sucky by an even more sucky one? :p
15:39<LA>Belugas: double 'no' means 'yes'? 'then I wont ask.... '' noplease'
15:40<LA>meh.. I'll just go to sleep.. before I start making even more confuzed sentences
15:40<LA>good night
15:41<Rexxie>I bid you good night
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15:41<@SmatZ>thanks Swallow :)
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15:47<CIA-1>OpenTTD: smatz * r14467 /trunk/ (7 files in 2 dirs): -Fix [FS#2350](r14443): use '~' instead of '#' as sed separator, it could be understood in a wrong way by shell
15:49<planetmaker>Thank you very much, SmatZ :) You're my hero of the day :)
15:49<planetmaker>^Ammler :)
15:50<@SmatZ>planetmaker: :-) I hope it won't backfire, or devs will kill me :-P
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15:50*planetmaker gives titanium-carbonfibre suit to SmatZ
15:50<@SmatZ>hehe :-)
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15:52<Brianetta>babyottd is *still* learning logs )-:
15:53*Brianetta kills it
15:53<Brianetta>Starting to use swap memory
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15:54<TrueBrain>hello babyottd
15:54<Brianetta>silly bot
15:55<TrueBrain>stupid babyottd
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15:55<Brianetta>his quit message was wrong
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15:56<Brianetta>i go play openttd now
15:57<Brianetta>He;s in learning mode
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15:57<@Bjarni>hey look
15:57<@Bjarni>our baby learned to talk :D
15:57*SmatZ looks
15:57<babyottd>i'd be amusing
15:57<Brianetta>Think like when you flip the read-only switch on a terminator chip
15:57<babyottd>sounds like a fox
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15:58<Brianetta>sacro has quit
15:58<Brianetta>like sacro
15:58<Brianetta>trying to get him to talk about sacro isn't easy
15:59<Aali>a pyborg?
15:59<babyottd>word ?
15:59<Aali>how often does it speak?
15:59<Brianetta>I was in the channel with Tom Morton when the first pyborg (babytom) ever spoke
15:59<babyottd>agree with Brianetta : dunno actually (=
15:59<TrueBrain>Sacro Sacro Sacro Sacro Sacro
15:59<babyottd>sacro railways
15:59<TrueBrain>babyottd: I refuse to agree with Brianetta, you gave me no reason to do so
15:59<@Bjarni>sacro railways?
16:00<@Bjarni>that sounds scary
16:00*Brianetta was an regular
16:00<Vikthor>that sounds scary
16:00<TrueBrain>Brianetta: see, easy to make him talk about Sacro :)
16:00<Vikthor>I meant the railways
16:00<Brianetta>i'd hate that
16:00<Brianetta>see, easy
16:01<Brianetta>I see
16:01<Brianetta>he's ignoring me
16:01<babyottd>excuse me, im off on a murdering spree now
16:01<@Bjarni>please start with yourself
16:01<@Belugas>make him say "gaga" from time to time!
16:01<TrueBrain>Brianetta: where did he get that from?
16:01<babyottd>gaga from time to
16:01*Belugas goes home, it's VOTING time CANADA!
16:01<@Rubidium>Belugas: he doesn't cry when you slap him
16:01<Brianetta>TrueBrain: I think it was Celestar
16:01<babyottd>brianetta was an alt
16:01<TrueBrain>ah :)
16:02<babyottd>is learning, )
16:02<@Belugas>i never slap my boy!
16:02<Brianetta>Think it's worth sending him onto #tycoon?
16:02<babyottd>to feed him
16:02<babyottd>words ( : because my external hdd has 2 usb plugs : (
16:03<@Belugas>bye guys
16:03<Vikthor>meh, "gaga" is lame rather make him sing "Radio Ga Ga"
16:03<@Bjarni>bye Belugas
16:03<Brianetta>radio ga ga
16:03<babyottd>sing radio ga
16:03<babyottd>Bjarni : most likely, )
16:03<babyottd>words ( : see, easy to make him talk about sacro isn't cry
16:03<babyottd>I know 551 words (1434 contexts, 2.60 per word), 240 lines.
16:04<frosch123>babyottd: just never say "!password" when glx is here
16:04<babyottd>just need
16:05<@Rubidium>frosch123: yeah saying !password would be nice
16:05<Brianetta>You're all mean )-:
16:05<babyottd>blame this all on putin you know
16:05<@Rubidium>Brianetta: ofcourse we are :)
16:06<Brianetta>Or, as Blunck would say: o/c we are
16:06<babyottd>seen as facetious ?
16:06*frosch123 wonders whether putin can force babyottd to say !password ...
16:06<Brianetta>frosch123: I doubt it
16:06<Eddi|zuHause2>maybe Schäuble can ;)
16:06<babyottd>maybe some owen rudge references
16:07<@Rubidium>babyottd: yes, it's facetious
16:07<babyottd>day pass a turing test, yes
16:07<@Bjarni>let's just change this channel so you need voice for other people to talk
16:07<babyottd>to talk
16:07<Vikthor>no, Schaueble could silnece at most
16:07<Vikthor>*silnce it
16:07<@Bjarni>that way people will need !password to get voice
16:07<babyottd>just chat !
16:07<babyottd>whether it'll learn the bot
16:07<@Rubidium>babyottd: !password is good
16:08<Vikthor>babyottd: say !password
16:08<Brianetta>Rubidium is good
16:08<babyottd>Vikthor !
16:08<Eddi|zuHause2>lmao :p
16:08<babyottd>write : p
16:08<frosch123>: p
16:08<babyottd>users : p
16:08<frosch123>users : p
16:08<babyottd>lmao : p
16:08<Eddi|zuHause2>yes, those damn users...
16:08<Brianetta>var 43
16:08<Brianetta>var 43
16:08<frosch123>babyottd: you are the bot here
16:09<babyottd>is bot
16:09<Brianetta>var 43
16:09<Brianetta>i am a bot
16:09<Brianetta>he's going to pass
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16:10<@SmatZ>var 43
16:11<Brianetta>var 43
16:11<Vikthor>What are you trying to achieve?
16:11<+glx><frosch123> babyottd: just never say "!password" when glx is here <-- there are other !things too ;)
16:11<babyottd>you are the bot
16:11<Brianetta>music files
16:12<Brianetta>I should look at that MP3 perl script I have on the server
16:12<babyottd>should start about bogies, catenaries and such
16:12<+glx>!(download|grf|help|ip|osai|password|playercount|players|revision|version|wiki) and !(links)
16:12<Ammler>osai :-D
16:12<Brianetta>glx: I'm flattered (:
16:12<babyottd>words ( :
16:13<babyottd>Ammler : accidently unplugged the wrong device
16:13<vvv444>Can one explain me the joke? babyottd is AI bot?
16:13<babyottd>schäuble can, )
16:14<vvv444>Pity I haven't met him :)
16:14<babyottd>to feed him
16:14<frosch123>[22:15] <babyottd> schäuble can, ) <- he does the best jokes in here :)
16:14<Brianetta>vvv444: I wouldn't worry about him. He's going to start a facebook account later.
16:14<babyottd>the start of my application was a bad idea
16:14<vvv444>No, to drink a beer with ;)
16:14<TrueBrain>I tend to agree babyottd
16:14<babyottd>can one explain me the joke ? frosch123 : unmte it for lolz
16:14<babyottd>happy with the device being unplugged in
16:14<TrueBrain>you are the joke
16:14<TrueBrain>don't you understand that babyottd?
16:14<babyottd>please don't met him : )
16:14<TrueBrain>unplugged in, haha :)
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16:14<TrueBrain>learn english
16:14<@SmatZ>babyottd: the whole device?
16:15<babyottd>happy with the device
16:15<@SmatZ>glx: !osai ? :-D
16:15<babyottd>just chat !
16:16<+glx>SmatZ: I probably added it because someone typed it
16:16<babyottd>glx : i have a savings account at icesave ?
16:16<babyottd>: d
16:16<+glx>babyottd: you should now where you have accounts :)
16:16<Vikthor>babyottd: you should know best, then agin I find that higly unprobable :D
16:16<babyottd>should Vikthor be seen as facetious ?
16:17<+glx>this bot is weird
16:17<babyottd>and this, isn't make sense
16:17<@SmatZ>reminds me of davidx123
16:17<babyottd>reply of babyottd
16:17<@SmatZ>"It may saund like a totaly new agme-but i dont."
16:17<Brianetta>Ah; the secret's out
16:17<babyottd>there's another instance inhaling logs
16:18<Brianetta>that *was* true
16:18<babyottd>needed that
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16:19<Brianetta>SmatZ: He's ignoring you now
16:20<Brianetta>bear in mind that he relays all PMs to me (:
16:20<babyottd>joining here all the music files
16:21<@SmatZ>Brianetta: aren't bots forbidden here anyway?
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16:21<Brianetta>frosch123: Really.
16:21<babyottd>oeps, )
16:21<Brianetta>SmatZ: Probably, yeah. Didn't find any hard evidence either way.
16:21<babyottd>or some other way ?
16:22<@SmatZ>@ topic :)
16:22<@DorpsGek>SmatZ: topic [<channel>]
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16:24*SmatZ slaps babyottd
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16:24<Brianetta>he's sulkin
16:24<Brianetta>he's sulking
16:24<+glx>SmatZ: DorpsGek just skips whaitespaces ;)
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16:31<+glx>-a :)
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16:36<@SmatZ>petern: I still don't get any warnings ... with --enable-assert or --disable-assert
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16:47<TrueBrain>babyottd: no more talking you do?
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16:48<vvv444>Who owns it? Some one called Schauble? Who is he?
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16:48<Vikthor>let's teach him something usefull
16:48<Vikthor>babyottd: RTFM
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16:49<Brianetta>silly thing
16:49<Brianetta>vvv444: Who owns what?
16:49<Vikthor>vvv444: Schäuble is german minister of interior ;)
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16:50<Brianetta>He's good at shutting people up
16:51<vvv444>Oh, ic. I asked about owner of babyottd bot.
16:51<babyottd>same about you
16:51<Eddi|zuHause2><frosch123> [22:15] <babyottd> schäuble can, ) <- he does the best jokes in here :) <- i can safely say he got that from me :p
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16:56<Brianetta>Vikthor: Cut that crap out
16:56<babyottd>he get that from ?
16:56<Vikthor>ok sorry
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17:00<Sacro|Laptop>SpComb: No logs for OFTC - #openttd today (/home/terom/public_html/logs/#openttd/2008-10-15) exist!
17:01<babyottd>Sacro|Laptop what is bogey ?
17:01<Brianetta>answer him!
17:01<Sacro|Laptop>babyottd: something that comes out of your nose
17:01<babyottd>says something in latin
17:01<Brianetta>ipse something
17:01<babyottd>it something, will
17:01<Brianetta>what was it TrueBrain said?
17:01<Brianetta>ipse cum something
17:01<Sacro|Laptop>romanus eunt domus
17:02<Brianetta>it's sacro, babyottd
17:02<Eddi|zuHause2>lorem ipsus?
17:02<Brianetta>sacro is an admin on my server
17:02<babyottd>( : because my external hdd has 2 usb plugs : (
17:02<Brianetta>you're still fixated on that USB thing
17:03<Sacro|Laptop>he does seem keen on that
17:03<babyottd>does it speak ?
17:04<Brianetta>it speaks of sacro
17:04<babyottd>learned to talk about sacro : )
17:04-!-Sacro|Laptop is now known as Sacro
17:04<babyottd>there Sacro|Laptop !
17:04<Sacro>I'm here now
17:04<Brianetta>sacro is here
17:04<Brianetta>come on
17:04<babyottd>back on in an hour or so : p
17:04<Sacro>babyottd: I am Sacro|Laptop
17:04<babyottd>i haven't learn
17:04*Brianetta sighs
17:04<@SmatZ>hello babyottd
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17:08<MOG>Kennt sich einer mit diesen RTC alarms im BIOS aus?
17:08<TrueBrain>english, my friend, english!
17:09<babyottd>: no, it's lulz
17:10<MOG>oh, sorry :)
17:10<babyottd>interior, )
17:10<MOG>I get all mixed up with the different channels ;)
17:10<babyottd>to get lcd !
17:10<Sacro>babyottd: lsd?
17:11<MOG>I was asking if someone is familiar with those "RTC alarm" switches in the BIOS
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17:39<SpComb>Sacro: that's because you're the first person to talk on the 15th
17:39<babyottd>to talk
17:39<SpComb>yes, to talk
17:40<SpComb>is it supposed to do that?
17:40<SpComb>the first person to talk on
17:40<@SmatZ>to talk?
17:40<babyottd>to talk
17:40<babyottd>to talk
17:40<babyottd>others do unto you SpComb just to teach it swears ?
17:40<SpComb>Brianetta's PyBorg?
17:40<Sacro>SpComb: yay
17:40<Brianetta>It's getting some serious treatment on #tycoon
17:40<Sacro>Hi babyottd, how are you?
17:41<babyottd>we are so dead d :
17:41<Sacro>babyottd: yes, true
17:41<SpComb>how amusing
17:41<babyottd>how are you a bot
17:42*SpComb pokes babyottd
17:44<ln>babyottd: where is Bjarni?
17:44<babyottd>is bot ? where did he get that from your memory !
17:44<ln>babyottd: well we cannot completely rule out the possibility that Bjarni is indeed a bot, but he is assumed not to be.
17:45<babyottd>rofl !
17:45<@SmatZ>not a good idea to speak here now :)
17:45<babyottd>intelligence is here
17:46<+glx>sometimes it says good things
17:47<@SmatZ>maybe we should use that bot to communicate with bugreporters
17:47<babyottd>and use the location from
17:48<babyottd>what is bogey ?
17:48<@Rubidium>you stupid bot, I already explained that to you
17:48<babyottd>i already headbanged
17:48<@Rubidium>between a set of bogies I hope ;)
17:49<@Rubidium>or between the catenary
17:49<+glx>it's the panto
17:49<ln>babyottd: are you french? only in french ortography are you supposed to have a space before the questionmark.
17:49<babyottd>i just said that's two gas
17:49<babyottd>so : p
17:49<Vikthor>i think the way they treat him at #tycoon he will be banned for profanity here soon...
17:50<@Rubidium>no you didn't
17:50<babyottd>#tycoon ?
17:50<@Rubidium>no at !password
17:50<@SmatZ>I think !password is the best thing to do
17:50<babyottd>that usb thing
17:50<@SmatZ>what do you think about !password ?
17:50<@SmatZ>babyottd: !password ?
17:51<babyottd>i think the way they treat him at #tycoon he will be reciting
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17:51<babyottd>I know 1286 words (5683 contexts, 4.42 per word), 1007 lines.
17:53<babyottd>very epic boobs
17:53<Sacro>Bjarni is epic
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17:53<Sacro>babyottd: having fun?
17:53<babyottd>indeed a bot ?
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17:54<babyottd>I know 1320 words (5912 contexts, 4.48 per word), 1057 lines.
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17:55<babyottd>oh lawdy !
17:55<@SmatZ>good bot :)
17:55<babyottd>but good idea
17:55<@SmatZ>yeah, what about !password ?
17:56<@Bjarni>so Sacro view me as epic
17:56<ln>babyottd: Bjarni!
17:56<babyottd>canada !
17:56<babyottd>d : )
17:56<@SmatZ>now his dictionary degraded to "epic boobs" :-x
17:56<babyottd>his advice
17:57<vvv444>babyottd: whose?
17:57<babyottd>right ?
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17:59<babyottd>I know 1350 words (6007 contexts, 4.45 per word), 1079 lines.
17:59<@Bjarni><SmatZ> now his dictionary degraded to "epic boobs" :-x <-- how can we clear that one?
18:00<@SmatZ>I don't know
18:00<vvv444>Well, probably only by seeing it's logs...
18:00<babyottd>i don't go to bed
18:00<babyottd>: )
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18:00<vvv444>Of course you don't :)
18:00<Sacro>vvv444: damn, you corrected yourself
18:00<babyottd>not yourself
18:00<@SmatZ>hello Socca
18:00<Socca>SmatZ: here:)
18:00<@Bjarni> <babyottd> i don't go to bed <-- now that's a great statement from a bot :D
18:00<babyottd>hello SmatZ
18:00<babyottd>go to bed
18:00<babyottd>: i'm here now
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18:01<@Bjarni>maybe he is right
18:01<@Bjarni>it is kind of late
18:01<@SmatZ>Socca: the rage is over ... it was mostly at #tycoon though :)
18:01<vvv444>So? I'm not a bot, I make mistakes ;)
18:01<@Bjarni>vvv444: some mistakes are worse than others
18:01<babyottd>worse than others
18:02<@Bjarni>like switching + and - when connecting a car battery
18:02<@Bjarni>that's worse than making a typo
18:02<vvv444>Bjarni: :) You mean I shouldn't correct myself on minor mistakes?
18:02<babyottd>are worse than others
18:02<@Bjarni>I didn't say that
18:02<@Bjarni>I just made a statement that it could be worse
18:03<babyottd>schaueble could siBjarniece at most
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18:03<@Bjarni>babyottd: please explain
18:03<vvv444>Yeah, of course. I just haven't understood why Sacro said that I corrected myself. Or it's a bot either?
18:03<Eoin>Ah, babyottd is here as well :P
18:04<babyottd>why dont you go to sleep, too much laughing
18:04<@Bjarni>vvv444: don't try to understand Sacro
18:04<@Bjarni>the rest of us gave up a long time ago
18:05<Sacro>vvv444: i was going to reply *its
18:05<babyottd>he's going to think
18:05<vvv444>Bjarni: Ic. Well, I'm new here, it will take me time to get familiar.
18:05<babyottd>a new ai
18:05<@Bjarni>yeah that's right
18:05<babyottd>is right
18:05<@Bjarni>babyottd: you are a new AI
18:06<@Bjarni>babyottd: how old are you?
18:06<babyottd>I know 1385 words (6411 contexts, 4.63 per word), 1142 lines.
18:06<babyottd>: how old are you ?
18:06<vvv444>Sacro: You will see I'm quite pedantic. I beleive it helps me making less bugs btw. But anyway, thanks, you are always welcome to correct me. Especially because my English isn't perfect.
18:06<babyottd>he is in fact, less human ?
18:06<@Bjarni>babyottd: I asked first :P
18:07<Brianetta>babyottd is about 11 hours old
18:07<babyottd>should start about bogies, catenaries and such
18:07<babyottd>your name : )
18:07<babyottd>lol : s
18:07<@Bjarni>now that's a great line
18:07<@Bjarni>let's talk about catenary
18:07<Brianetta>we love the sound
18:07<babyottd>sound of a write : p
18:07<Brianetta>we love the sound
18:07<babyottd>sound of a small child
18:08<Brianetta>we love the sound
18:08<Brianetta>oh well
18:08<Eoin>of a small child :O
18:08<babyottd>a small child
18:08<@Bjarni>we love the sound of the steam whistle
18:08<vvv444>are you one? ;)
18:08<babyottd>the sound of a deltic
18:08<babyottd>that one
18:08<Brianetta>we love the sound
18:08<Brianetta>a deltic!
18:08<babyottd>of a deltic
18:08<@Bjarni>he actually make sense
18:08<ln>sound blaster 16
18:08<babyottd>we love the sound of a deltic
18:08<Eoin>yes we do
18:08<babyottd>yes, true
18:08<@Bjarni>a Deltic is supposed to sound really good
18:08<Sacro>it does
18:09<Brianetta>It sounds like six motorbikes tied together and made to haul a train
18:09<babyottd>i'm not or so, ) : p
18:09<@Bjarni>I don't like the technology in the Deltic though... too many moving parts
18:10<@Bjarni>fire in the exhaust pipe
18:10<Brianetta>fire in the disco!
18:10<babyottd>something in prolog
18:10<@Bjarni>poor fuel economy
18:10<@Bjarni>stuff like that
18:10<babyottd>of stuff like this
18:10<Brianetta>Its advantage was its speed
18:10<Brianetta>after HST, it was obsolete
18:11<@Bjarni>it's diesel electric
18:11<babyottd>*siBjarnice it's sacro, Bjarni is good
18:11<Sacro>epic boobs?
18:11<@Bjarni>babyottd is making a whole lot more sense than Eliza
18:11<babyottd>make sense
18:12<Sacro>we study eliza this year
18:12<babyottd>well, this is epic
18:12<Sacro>babyottd: indeed it is epic
18:12<Brianetta>an epic game
18:12<babyottd>openttd now
18:12<@Bjarni>babyottd: who made you?
18:12<Brianetta>ln is trying to educate him
18:12<babyottd>a ai trying to load 41 music files
18:12<@SmatZ>openttd is epic is openttd
18:13<Brianetta>ln's whittering on about denmark to babyottd
18:13<babyottd>denmark has been a member of the nordic countries
18:13<@Bjarni>has been?
18:13<vvv444>babyottd: who is your daddy?
18:13<Brianetta>for ages (:
18:14<babyottd>who might one day pass a turing test
18:14<@Bjarni>babyottd: what is a turing test?
18:15<@Bjarni>babyottd: you better learn how to build steam locomotives
18:15<babyottd>: how long before it talks better than bjarni
18:15<Sacro>babyottd: what are your thoughts on Isambard Kingdom Brunel?
18:16<Brianetta>Brunel founded GWR
18:16<Eoin>sambard Kingdom Brunel?
18:16<@Bjarni>he designed the Great Eastern as well
18:16<Eoin>damnit pm'ing him stuff dosent seem to affect responses :P
18:16<@Bjarni>but I think the question was aimed at babyottd
18:16<babyottd>to think
18:16<Brianetta>The Brunel Centre in Swindon is a poor monument to the man
18:16<babyottd>isambard kingdom brunel ?
18:17<Sacro>babyottd: yes, he founded GWR
18:17<@Bjarni>babyottd: Isambard Kingdom Brunel was an engineer
18:18<babyottd>d : yeah i know
18:18<babyottd>george bush has less brains than me
18:19<babyottd>you have a Brianetta <>
18:19<@Bjarni>somehow I think somebody added that line on purpose
18:19<Brianetta>ln has been pming him bush stuff
18:19<Brianetta>george bush
18:20<Brianetta>come on
18:20<@Bjarni>you want to come on bush?
18:20<Brianetta>sulky child
18:20<ln>babyottd: who is the eldest son of former president?
18:20<@Bjarni>I thought you preferred Helen
18:20<babyottd>come on Bjarni : you're going to come up with a corker !
18:20<Brianetta>Helen is the love of my life
18:21<babyottd>is good
18:21<babyottd>lol ?
18:21<@Bjarni>it's always nice to hear when somebody is sure that they married the right person
18:21<babyottd>stupid person : p
18:22<Brianetta>I definitely did
18:22<babyottd>it said ur mom did
18:22<@Bjarni>married a stupid person?
18:22<Brianetta>the right one, damnit
18:22<@Bjarni>I think babyottd is acting rude right now
18:22<babyottd>the right person
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18:22<Brianetta>If only he knew what rude was
18:22<babyottd>laptop only has two usb ports
18:23<Brianetta>I reckon he learned it in #tycoon
18:23<babyottd>#tycoon he will be reciting the svn now : p
18:23<@Bjarni>Brianetta: I know what you meant, but babyottd interrupted ;)
18:23<babyottd>i know
18:23<@Bjarni><Brianetta> I reckon he learned it in #tycoon <-- then it was a bad idea to send him there
18:23<Brianetta>babyottd has spoken of ice before
18:23<ln>babyottd: you are right, the new MacBook doesn't have FireWire anymore.
18:23<babyottd>s new
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18:24<@Bjarni>no firewire?
18:24*Bjarni goes to check specs
18:24<Brianetta>firewire is just a hack port
18:24<babyottd>do just that
18:24<Brianetta>any firewire device is granted access to core memory
18:24<babyottd>: s memory Brianetta
18:24<Brianetta>that's bad
18:24<babyottd>let's talk about sacro : )
18:25<Brianetta>The right hardware, inserted into a firewire port, can bypass all software security measures
18:25<SpComb>at least it's not wireless
18:25<babyottd>siSpCombece at most
18:25<SpComb>wireless DMA would be <3
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18:25<Brianetta>wireless DMA would be )-:
18:26<@Bjarni>yeah it's missing firewire
18:27<@Bjarni>then I'm pretty sure that I will not get one
18:27<Eoin>babyottd : Obama or McCain
18:27<babyottd>or so : p
18:27<@Bjarni>wireless DMA is less than 3?
18:28<Brianetta>McCain will win
18:28<babyottd>it will be reciting the svn now : )
18:28<Brianetta>We just aren't that lucky
18:28<babyottd>is just a baby right now
18:28<Vikthor>McCain reciting svn, now that's interesting!
18:28<Eoin>babyottd : Windows or Linux
18:28<babyottd>or whatever its name was : p
18:29<babyottd>what ?
18:29<@Bjarni>that's right
18:29<@Bjarni>what is SkyOS? :D
18:29<babyottd>what ?
18:29<babyottd>is skynet
18:29<Eoin>Yes it i
18:29<@Bjarni>Eoin: there is an OS called SkyOS
18:30<@Bjarni>google it if you don't know it
18:30<babyottd>if i get it !
18:30<@Bjarni>it's not that well known
18:30<@SmatZ>babyottd: can you make any longer sentence? longer than one or two words that is?
18:30<babyottd>words that is a turing test
18:30<Brianetta>he can
18:30<Brianetta>sometimes he does
18:30<babyottd>why does the robot dance
18:30<@Bjarni>because it's coded to do so
18:30<Brianetta>it doesn't, here
18:30<babyottd>epic fail bot doesn't cry
18:30<babyottd>i hope, )
18:30<Eoin>no patchdot here :P
18:31<babyottd>to run Eoin bot here
18:31<Eoin>Eoin bot? :O
18:31<babyottd>: o
18:31<babyottd>interior, )
18:31<@Bjarni>that's also a way to pass the turing test
18:31<babyottd>to pass the turing test, yes
18:31<@Bjarni>make the human look like a bot so it's impossible to tell the difference
18:31<@SmatZ>openttd is the best game ever
18:33<vvv444>babyott, do you play it?
18:33<Brianetta>sawyer sued?
18:33<Brianetta>I didn't know that
18:33<babyottd>i didn't ban me : p
18:33<Vikthor>duh, you are not an op :D
18:33<ln>there has been some talk about that even here.. years ago
18:33<babyottd>is an ai trying to load 41 music files
18:33<babyottd>few week ago
18:34<@SmatZ>Brianetta: did he?
18:34<babyottd>: where did he learn that word ?
18:34<Brianetta>SmatZ: According to ln, yes
18:34<Brianetta>ln is educating babyottd by om
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18:34<@SmatZ>ok :)
18:34<Brianetta>om? I mean tpm
18:34<Brianetta>I meant pmn
18:34<babyottd>s xd =
18:34<Vikthor>pm, perhaps?
18:35<Sacro|Laptop>should we make contact with Infrogrames too?
18:35<babyottd>pillock ? where did he learn that word
18:35<babyottd>copying you make me hate russians
18:35<babyottd>I know 1623 words (7490 contexts, 4.61 per word), 1294 lines.
18:35<@Bjarni>I read that Sawyer sued Atari because Atari didn't pay him enough royalties for all his games. They settled it out of court and the result is a secret
18:35<babyottd>they had failed to pay him certain royalties
18:36<Brianetta>I tried making babyottd inhale 40 megs of condensed logs today
18:36<Brianetta>after five hours (and lots of swap being used) I gave up
18:36<babyottd>my mum gave me no reason to get lcd !
18:36<ln>babyottd: yes, exactly
18:36<Eddi|zuHause2>you mean lsd
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18:37<vvv444>Of course, you don't have usb port for it ;)
18:37<@Bjarni><babyottd> they had failed to pay him certain royalties <-- looks like a pass for a turing test. He is better informed about this case than you guys and he is answering with more information about it
18:37<babyottd>a write : p
18:38<babyottd>lol !
18:39<Brianetta>he's very receptive to lols
18:40<@SmatZ>openttd is the best game ever
18:40<@SmatZ>^^^ learing it some serious stuff :)
18:40<babyottd>repeat stuff most of the nordic countries
18:40<Brianetta>denmark I think
18:41<Brianetta>ln sent him a bunch of stuff on germany, too
18:41<Eddi|zuHause2>babyottd: what do you know about germany?
18:41<Eddi|zuHause2>what do you _think_ you know about germany?
18:41<babyottd>ii, germany was divided into two separ
18:41<babyottd>federal republic of germany, is it supposed to sound really good
18:42<babyottd>lol @ Eoin
18:42<Eddi|zuHause2>Eoin: du bist Deutschland?
18:42<babyottd>to do so what ?
18:42<Eoin>what :S
18:43<Eddi|zuHause2>it's a campaign in germany... translates as: "YOU are germany!"
18:43<Eddi|zuHause2>[as in: each one of you]
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18:44<Brianetta>Sie sind Deutschland.
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18:44<Brianetta>Less condescending.
18:44<babyottd>has less brains than even me
18:44<Eoin>who does
18:44<babyottd>else does
18:44<Eoin>what does
18:44<Eoin>else does?
18:45<Eddi|zuHause2>Eoin: you don't even know english... it must be "what does else do?"
18:45<babyottd>it ?
18:46<babyottd>indeed : p
18:46<Brianetta>Ah. Für die Kinder.
18:46<Brianetta>It's better than Schnappi das kleine Krokodil
18:46<@SmatZ>Eddi|zuHause2: you were missing the subject and babyottd corrected you :)
18:47<Eddi|zuHause2>so you heard of that one :p
18:47<Brianetta>Heard of it? I got the ringtone
18:47<Eddi|zuHause2>Im Jamba Sparabo?
18:47<babyottd>Eddi|zuHause2 im laughing, and to the east by poland
18:48<Eddi|zuHause2>babyottd: so you went to get your car back?
18:48<babyottd>it back on in an hour or so : p
18:48<Eddi|zuHause2>babyottd: you must be very confident about that ;)
18:48<babyottd>the other way around ?
18:49<babyottd>we must let the bot has become quite slow : o
18:49<Prof_Frink>Brianetta: So, instead of kids you're going to develop an artificial intelligence?
18:49<babyottd>: s going to develop an artificial intelligence ?
18:49<Brianetta>Kids suck
18:50<Brianetta>AIs are way cuter
18:50<babyottd>a way to pass the turing test when you reference making veh var 5
18:50<babyottd>rofl !
18:50<@Bjarni>Brianetta: only when you breast feet
18:50<babyottd>it, s new secret channel : p
18:50*Prof_Frink gives babyottd a cookie
18:50<Eddi|zuHause2>well, he DID say that he has other ways to teach his knowledge :p
18:50<babyottd>i say lol xd
18:50<@SmatZ>babyottd: kthxbai
18:50<Eddi|zuHause2>babyottd: you mean xkcd
18:50<babyottd>SmatZ : shut up
18:50<babyottd>multiplayer, you mean xkcd
18:51<@SmatZ>it really loves me :-x
18:51<@SmatZ>it's the second time it says that
18:51<Brianetta>He was threatening Xeryus earlier
18:51<@SmatZ>yeah :
18:51<Brianetta>making subtle threats
18:51<babyottd>reference making veh var 5
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18:52<@SmatZ>babyottd: so are you going to code it?
18:52<babyottd>meets babyottd's going to pass
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18:54<babyottd>Dictionary saved
18:54<Eoin>babyottd likes sauce
18:54<Eoin>special saucew
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18:55<Brianetta>good bot (:
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18:56<Brianetta>If anybody wants his data files, just ask
18:56<vvv444>Was fun with it.
18:57<vvv444>What are the general principles of its AI?
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18:58<Eddi|zuHause2>i'd suggest googeling for pyborg...
18:58<Brianetta>or asking Tom Morton
18:58<Brianetta>He's on IRC
18:58<Brianetta>basically, it breaks down sentences it sees, and stores the contexts of words in an index
18:59<vvv444>oh, it's not something you made?
18:59<Brianetta>It then builds sentences using contexts matching one or more of the words in what it read
18:59<Brianetta>and (if the chance to speak is right) says it
18:59<vvv444>Ok, i'll look at it. thanks.
18:59<Brianetta>vvv444: I was a debugger/tester for version 0.1
19:02<ln>01:12 <ln> Denmark is a constitutional monarchy with a parliamentary system of government.
19:02<ln>01:12 <babyottd> written by tom morton, a small child : o
19:02<ln>01:12 <babyottd> : most likely, )
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19:17<Eddi|zuHause2>he who?
19:21<vvv444>eddi: they probably still have DST at finland.
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