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04:39<V453000>eradicate humenz
04:39<V453000>priority critical
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05:10<@peter1138>we used poisonous gases
05:10<@peter1138>and we poisoned their asses
05:10<@peter1138>the humans are dead
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05:32<Eddi|zuHause>we did try that, but then everybody got mad at us...
05:43<V453000>Eddi|zuHause I always heard you have to be patient to reach your goals ... just try again in case of fail
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05:58<Wolf01>Is it chinese day on ottd general forum?
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06:04<Wolf01>Mmmh, internet backbone behaving bad again... >150ms ping to reach anything outside italy
06:04<__ln__>who needs anything outside italy on the other hand
06:05<Wolf01>I can't play diablo
06:05<Wolf01>Too much lag
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07:01<@peter1138>pom te pom ... i5-7600k or i7-7700k
07:02<Wolf01>Userbenchmark says i7-7700k
07:03<LordAro>you're unlikely to need an i7 unless you know you need an i7
07:04<V453000>you're unlikely to need an i7 unless you play openttd
07:05<V453000>mor trainz
07:05<SpComb>isn't i7 about like more cores and hyperthreading than i5
07:05<Wolf01>Running multiple virtual machines is a pita with an i5
07:05<SpComb>although I have a dual-core i7, so dunno
07:05<SpComb>it's like a fake i7
07:06<LordAro>top-spec i7 vs top-spec i5 *generally* isn't worth the extra cost
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07:14<@peter1138>yeah it's like £240 vs £350 :S
07:14<@peter1138>plus the i5 may be able to overclock higher due to lacking hyperthreading
07:16<__ln__>lucky for you the pound is worth less than before
07:20<@peter1138>6MB vs 8MB cache. woo.
07:22<__ln__>i just sold my nearly-9-year-old Q6600 + motherboard + 8GB for 61€. didn't imagine it was still worth so much.
07:23<@peter1138>still using my q6600
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07:29<Wolf01>Still using my E6600
07:30<@peter1138>£1619 for top end i7
07:30<@peter1138>10 cores :p
07:30<Wolf01>Wow, less than a macbook and 350% more powerful alone
07:31<__ln__>i don't think you can install thatn top end i7 to a laptop
07:31<@peter1138>bah, trying to find a decent case without a stupid window
07:33<Wolf01> I have one like this
07:34<@peter1138>i could just use my old case
07:35<@peter1138>but it's from 2000
07:35<@peter1138>cooling's a bit shit
07:36<@peter1138>Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 32GB (4x16GB)
07:36<@peter1138>that'd be 64GB :D
07:37<Wolf01>32GB -> 4x16GB?
07:37<@peter1138>hmm , wonder if i should replace the psu as well. it's a decent one just a few years old now.
07:38<LordAro>no reason to if you don't need to
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08:14<@peter1138>my isp is following me on twitter...
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09:25<supermop_>ive never had an i5
09:25<supermop_>i always got i7 because 7 is a bigger number than 5
09:36<@peter1138>i've never had either
09:46<V453000>biggar winnar
09:46<V453000>size mutters
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10:01<Eddi|zuHause>i've usually had AMD
10:10<V453000>omg red team faggot, everyone flame him
10:11<@peter1138>i had cyrix -> intel -> amd -> intel. my computers last a while...
10:14<@peter1138>although apparently amd's new one is good
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10:31<__ln__>i actually have two i5s at the moment... i5 + i5 = i10
10:32<crem>I believe I had i5. Unless Lenovo Thinkpad T420s had a version with i7.
10:33<crem>How long do your HDDs usually last? I had one HDD failed every year.
10:33<crem>But last 3 years there were no failures though..
10:33<crem>Probably because I stopped backuping.
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11:14<Eddi|zuHause>well, my computers last about 5 years
11:15<Eddi|zuHause>i did have a cyrix at some point
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11:22<Eddi|zuHause>that said, this one is about 5 years old now
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15:11<Wolf01>Blinking andy
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15:32<Wolf01>andythenorth, every time you blink a weeping angel comes closer
15:32<andythenorth>oh those
15:32*andythenorth never blinks
15:33<Wolf01>But you join and quit :P
15:33<andythenorth>weird that
15:33*andythenorth was afk, dunno what the computer did
15:34<andythenorth>anyone made a NRT grf yet? o_O
15:36<Wolf01> new speed limit?
15:37<andythenorth>speed limits :P
15:37<andythenorth>whose idea was that? :P
15:38<andythenorth>pretty good
15:38<andythenorth>off-topic: plz send me the codes anyone
15:40<Wolf01>Bah, my abilities don't match :(
15:40<Wolf01>Also my distance doesn't match
15:42<__ln__>does your nationality match?
15:43<Wolf01>It might be a problem with brexit
15:43<andythenorth>brexit means brexit
15:45<@Alberth>you're getting pounds anyway :)
15:48<__ln__>what does the 'nationality rules' mean in practice anyway?
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15:52<andythenorth>nationality rules means nationality rules
15:52<andythenorth>of course
15:53<Wolf01>Like "there are too many italians here, please stop come for stealing our jobs"
15:53<__ln__>citizen of a country that is ruled by elizabeth?
15:53<__ln__>or more like reigned by
15:54*andythenorth doesn’t comment
15:55<andythenorth>but I employ Canadians, Australians and New Zealanders
15:56<supermop_>people from St. Lucia?
15:56<andythenorth>not sure who their monarch is :P
15:56<andythenorth>supermop_: not afaik
15:56<supermop_>she's on the quid
15:56<andythenorth>forums is not very interesting :(
15:56<andythenorth>also fundraising is very slow this year
15:56<andythenorth>or my perception is wrong
15:57<Wolf01>Eh, no job, no 10€ to forums
16:07<supermop_>i still have not writen any code, to answer the question. next few days at work won't leave much time for it
16:10<__ln__>do you think with brexit there will be scotxit?
16:13<__ln__>and if scotland remains in the EU, how likely is it that Gibraltar becomes a part of scotland?
16:13<andythenorth>scoxit? dunno :)
16:14<supermop_>i dont know if many people outside of England or Gibraltar care that much about the final disposition of Gibraltar
16:14<debdog>a "scot it" would be way cooler
16:15<Eddi|zuHause>uhm, scotland might act up a bit if brexit actually goes through, but there is almost no chance anything is going to happen with gibraltar
16:16<Eddi|zuHause>possibly gibraltar gets special treatment for people travelling to and from spain
16:16<Eddi|zuHause>that's why there's a 2 year timeframe, to figure out this kind of detail
16:16<__ln__>from a tourist's perspective there is no special treatment at that border even now.
16:17<Eddi|zuHause>yes. britain is not in the schengen zone
16:17<Eddi|zuHause>but the people working there
16:17<Eddi|zuHause>and travelling back and forth
16:17<__ln__>yes, them.
16:17<Eddi|zuHause>work permits and stuff
16:18<supermop_>__ln__: it would be easiest for UK to cede it back to spain, but little englanders will want to keep it, almost everyone else will not care
16:19<supermop_>there are also crown possessions not part of the UK, which conceivably would not need to have their status changed by brexit
16:20<Eddi|zuHause>nobody is concerned about those...
16:20<Eddi|zuHause>those are usually some remote island
16:20<__ln__>however gibraltar is a strategically important piece of land to own.
16:20<supermop_>isle of man is not too remote
16:21<Eddi|zuHause>uhm, it is. :p
16:21<supermop_>nor is Jersey, though it is fairly small
16:21<supermop_>Eddi|zuHause: less remote than Ireland
16:22<Eddi|zuHause>it's not just geographical distance
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16:24<supermop_>A Manx passport would still conceivably be a EU passport, for any Britons who wanted one
16:24<supermop_>actually the reverse
16:25<supermop_>Isle of Man was never part of the EU
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16:54<supermop_>good move
16:55<supermop_>but tbh she probably would be safer in jail than in Trump's america
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17:49<supermop_>nice tram shed:
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18:13<__ln__>breaking news: "BER-Eröffnung 2017 unmöglich"
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18:17<Eddi|zuHause>anyone got Bingo! yet?
18:18<Eddi|zuHause>supermop_: i'd not call that a "shed"
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18:19<supermop_>Eddi|zuHause: from an architectural/structural stand point it is technically a shed
18:20<supermop_>from a railway standpoint it is a shed as in a 'train shed' but not a shed as in a 'locomotive shed'
18:21<Eddi|zuHause>those are semantical details that, frankly, just elude me as a foreign language speaker
18:21<supermop_>the former being generally used to refer to the large roofs over the tracks at older terminal stations, and the later referring to the place the locomotive goes to bed at night
18:22<supermop_>shed i assume is of germanic origin though? what is the usage in german, either as a roof type or building?
18:29<Eddi|zuHause>in german for locomotive shed is "Lokschuppen", where "Schuppen" (=shed) usually means a not-particularly-sturdy construction for storing stuff in, like garden sheds and stuff
18:30<Eddi|zuHause>i don't think i heard "Schuppen" being used for open structures like this roof-only station thingie
18:30<Eddi|zuHause>whether "Schuppen" and "shed" are etymologically related i don't know
18:32<supermop_>i would be willing to bet on it
18:32<Eddi|zuHause>apparently it's more related to "shop" than "shed"
18:35<Eddi|zuHause>from Schuppen you apparently get to Schopf (which means the hair on your head), and from english shed you get to Schädel (skull)
18:36<Eddi|zuHause>so that's probably the point where they diverged
18:36<Eddi|zuHause>how words for head things get to mean buildings is something that's not entirely obvious from quick internet searches
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18:38<Eddi|zuHause>alternative path is that english "shed" comes from "shade", which is related to german "Schatten" (shadow)
18:38<Eddi|zuHause>which then makes sense that a roof-only structure will provide shade
18:40<Eddi|zuHause>but then there's pretty much no relation to the german word "Schuppen"
18:44<supermop_>ok walking home now
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