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10:52<andythenorth>where does this End?
10:52<andythenorth>also should I insure my bike?
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11:04<LordAro>i haven't, but i have been giving it some thought (via British Cycling)
11:05<andythenorth>mine was £2.5k and I'm scared to leave it locked up outside our office
11:05<andythenorth>notorious bike theft zone
11:05<andythenorth>£15/month to insure
11:06<LordAro>that is not a cheap bike
11:06<LordAro>i would definitely want to insure that
11:06<LordAro>(my bike was £1k)
11:07<peter1139>You got a bike, eh?
11:10<andythenorth>our old office had a locked bike shed
11:15<peter1139>If you have a £2.5k bike, where's your Strava? :p
11:16<peter1139>Are you secretly doing 50 mile rides while pretending to draw pixels?
11:16<andythenorth>it's an expensive commuting luxury
11:17<andythenorth>but it's still cheaper than paying for parking or taxis
11:17<andythenorth>@calc 40*5*12
11:17<@DorpsGek>andythenorth: 2400
11:17<andythenorth>yeah parking was that much per year
11:17<LordAro>how far is your commute?
11:22<dwfreed>andythenorth: is there space to bring the bike inside?
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12:28<andythenorth>dwfreed: yes, but it's a tiny lift up 4 floors, and the landlord doesn't allow bikes in the building
12:28<andythenorth>today it is inside anyway
12:28<andythenorth>because $rules
12:29<andythenorth>LordAro: about 3 miles :P
12:29<andythenorth>takes 45 minutes to walk, which is a bit long
12:38<peter1139>^ Good for 3 miles....
12:38<peter1139>And you don't need to worry about it.
12:41<andythenorth>cheaper than insurance :P
12:41<andythenorth>or I could pump up the tyres on my Marin
12:42<andythenorth>and replace the handgrips which have turned into sticky goo
12:44<andythenorth>bike was nails
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13:04<peter1139>That's your bike?
13:04<peter1139>(I hope not)
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13:05<peter1139>((Unless that's a different bike from the £2.5k bike))
13:14<Wolf01>So, $999.00 stand, yes
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13:16*andythenorth contemplates Mojave upgrade
13:16<andythenorth>probably fine
13:18<peter1139>Well, this dinner is somewhat nice.
13:18<peter1139>andythenorth, surely that thread, from months ago, already confirms as working, so... what's the issue?
13:19<andythenorth>usually Apple
13:19<andythenorth>binaries working != compile working
13:19<peter1139>I hear the latest update breaks Wacom tablets...
13:19<andythenorth>due to Apple bollocks
13:33<Wolf01>Mmmh, what could I play to try the new graphics card? Crysis?
13:34*andythenorth plays only Blitz :|
13:34<andythenorth>they added more daily missions, that take 90 mins every day
13:34*andythenorth is the product
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13:40<peter1139>Wolf01, heh
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13:41<peter1139>Doom :D
13:41<Wolf01>Mmmh, quake 2 HD... tomorrow IIRC
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13:48<peter1139>Quake 2 RTX, yes.
13:48<peter1139>Going to get it :D
13:48<peter1139>What card did you get then?
13:53<Eddi|zuHause>that sounds fun?
13:56<Eddi|zuHause>btw, did we have a dev blog for june?
14:02<Wolf01>Talk about the reception of NRT
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14:57<andythenorth>this game has a great name
15:27<andythenorth>apparently a seamless OS upgrade
15:29<andythenorth>maybe Apple have stopped being crap
15:42<Wolf01>The exception confirms the rule
15:53<andythenorth>there was about 10 years when being an apple fanboy was justified by the quality
15:53<andythenorth>then the last 5 years...much less
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16:43<Eddi|zuHause>andythenorth: i'm sure during those 5 years the fanboyism actually intensified
16:47<andythenorth>well the proportion of fanboyism to actual value was certainly worse
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17:50<andythenorth>I broke my NRT test savegame
17:50<andythenorth>recompiled Hog grf under it, now it crashes on load :P
17:51*andythenorth assumes that's just tough luck?
17:54<FLHerne>andythenorth: Make sure that all the vehicle IDs in the old version still exist?
17:54<andythenorth>it's not that
17:54<FLHerne>Or at least, all the ones that were in existence
17:54<andythenorth>nah it simply won't recognise the grf
17:55<andythenorth>this is quite common when developing grfs
17:55<andythenorth>but in this case OpenTTD then crashes, which isn't usual
17:56<andythenorth>anyway, that save is gone, I'll have to start again with a test game
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18:58<Eddi|zuHause>i'm sometimes amazed at andy's ability to break things that shouldn't break
19:15<+glx>impressive skill :)
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19:22<SimYouLater>Can someone compile a version of JGRPP with the correct version of this patch?
19:22<SimYouLater>Thanks in advance.
19:24<ST2>SimYouLater: why not ask JGR himself?
19:25<SimYouLater>I did, he said he couldn't make any promises that it would be included. I asked the patch maker, he said he can't do it because his internet won't let him upload it.
19:26<ST2>so, the diff is there
19:26<ST2>roll your sleaves and work on
19:26<ST2>don't wait to others do the work
19:37<SimYouLater>I tried. I can't get it to compile.
19:37<SimYouLater>Keep in mind that the guy who made the patch said it might be because he compiles on Linux.
19:37<SimYouLater>I use Windows 10 .
19:38<SimYouLater>So it might not be possible for me to compile the code.
19:40<SimYouLater>And no, I'm not going to install Linux just to compile a patch.
19:43<ST2> <<-- free real estate, and yes, for W10 :D
19:44<ST2>what's your excuse now?
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19:45<ST2>if only compiles on linux, there's a thing called VM's, at least to check if it works on your side
20:15<Eddi|zuHause>maybe you start by compiling JGRPP without the patch?
20:15<Eddi|zuHause>or, openttd stable?
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21:30<SimYouLater>Eh, I'll wait and hope JGR adds the patch. It is being coded specifically to work with it, so... yeah.
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