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03:23<DorpsGek_II>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 opened issue #7673: Unable to completely remove custom text from a town after setting it (via game script)
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03:31<DorpsGek_II>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 commented on issue #7626: Building drive through road stop on town-owned one-way road crashes game.
03:33<DorpsGek_II>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on issue #7626: Building drive through road stop on town-owned one-way road crashes game.
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05:41<TrueBrain>NOTICE: I am about to roll over to a new kubernetes cluster; if you notice anything weird on (more than normal), please let me know! (it should be transparent, the roll-over ... but yeah ... you know how that goes :P)
05:44*LordAro waves
05:47*TrueBrain waves back
05:47<TrueBrain>right, around now everyone should have been switched, assuming people obey the TTL
05:49<peter1139>DNS change then?
05:49<peter1139> I don't know what it was before :p
05:49<TrueBrain>yes sir
05:49<TrueBrain>similar, but different :)
05:49<TrueBrain>I love k8s .. redeploying is easy
05:49<peter1139>.. 2a03 that is.
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05:50<TrueBrain>DigitalOcean doesn't allow assigning floating IPs to LoadBalancer (yet)
05:51<TrueBrain>so I changed the TTL to 60 a few hours ago ;)
05:51<TrueBrain>and indeed, the old cluster is fully silent now
05:52<TrueBrain>damn, this worked a lot better than I expected tbh :P
05:52<TrueBrain>do IPv6 downloads work btw?
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05:54<LordAro>well curl happily printed a zip file to my terminal, i guess so :)
05:55<TrueBrain>and I see IPv6s in the logs, so yeah, tnx
05:55<TrueBrain><3 Proxy Protocol
05:56<Samu>what is kubernetes for dummies?
05:56<Arveen>container system like Docker
05:57<Eddi|zuHause>does that mean no more "ipv6 broke again" ticktets?
05:58<TrueBrain>Arveen: that is dumbing it down a lot :P More: a good orchestration for containers :P
05:58<TrueBrain>Eddi|zuHause: nope, it doesn't mean that at all
05:59<TrueBrain>it does mean: if a host crashes, Flannel doesn't fuck up, and things break
06:00<TrueBrain>someone is polling our RSS feed every 2 minutes ... guess they REALLY want to stay up-to-date on the latest
06:00<Samu>seems like a linux command line stuff
06:01<Eddi|zuHause>send them a 403, and watch them retry every half a second?
06:02<TrueBrain>worst part is, they download both the atom feed and the RSS feed
06:02<TrueBrain>because maybe they are not in sync? :P
06:04<LordAro>iptables -s <ip> -j DROP
06:04<TrueBrain>I used to do that
06:04<TrueBrain>but we used to have people that queried their server every second
06:04<TrueBrain>and were shocked to hear that was not reasonable use of our service
06:05<Eddi|zuHause>i'm not a fan of silently dropping these queries
06:06<TrueBrain>that is why you should put your email address in the user agent if you make a bot like that :)
06:06<TrueBrain>allows owners to contact you to ask: wtf?! :P
06:07<Eddi|zuHause>still, replying with actual error messages might be better, unless it's a DDoS or spam
06:07<TrueBrain>every second in those days was a DoS, yes
06:07<@planetmaker>hey ho :) a TB, what a delightful sight
06:07<TrueBrain>hi planetmaker :)
06:08<TrueBrain>Eddi|zuHause: these days there are better solutions .. like redirecting IPs to a simple nginx that says: you are doing it wrong
06:08<TrueBrain>resources are less of an issue I guess :)
06:08<TrueBrain>we survived that dude with his fun youtube about OpenTTD just fine for example :P
06:09<TrueBrain>(you did see that, right?)
06:09<Eddi|zuHause>probably not :p
06:09<TrueBrain>that dude is awesome btw :)
06:10<TrueBrain>(oeh, I missed a Rick Roll moment here, did I? :( )
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06:10<Eddi|zuHause>i've seen that dude before, just not this video
06:10<TrueBrain>too bad people still think OpenTTD stands for something :P
06:14<@planetmaker>hm, na, didn't see that yet
06:14<LordAro>i saw a link to it somewhere
06:14<LordAro>apparently not here
06:14<TrueBrain>well, enjoy :) It is hilarious :)
06:14<@planetmaker>but I noticed there's some youtuber who has an OpenTTD series
06:15<@planetmaker>but in German... so viewer count is rather limited: :)
06:16<TrueBrain>10k views is not bad
06:17<TrueBrain>I like how he is doing it in HD :D
06:17<TrueBrain>with 8bpp :P
06:17<@planetmaker>oh, well, yes :) and indeed... so people watch it with some time delay.
06:18<@planetmaker>he's now at season 6, not 2 which I linked from beginning of this year
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06:30<Samu>308 Permanent Redirect
06:37<Samu>can't access site
06:38<peter1139>You can. Follow the permanent redirect.
06:38<Samu>doesn't redirect to anything
06:38<peter1139>It does.
06:39<Samu>nop, just says that, no redirection occurs
06:39<peter1139>Learn to use your tools.
06:39<peter1139>The new location is provided in the headers of the response.
06:40<Samu>what link?
06:41<LordAro>Samu: go back a bit, what did you use to get the 308 response? because it wasn't a browser
06:41<Samu>entered and that 308 eerror pops, doesn't redirect anywhere, and no link
06:42<Samu>got to go , take care
06:42<LordAro>hang on, 308?
06:42<LordAro>301 is permanent redirect
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06:43<LordAro>TrueBrain: that IP spamming the rss feeds wouldn't happen to be Portuguese, would it?
06:44<LordAro>`curl` gets me a 301, anyway
06:44<LordAro>(with a valid Location, ofc)
06:44<peter1139> has a different IP address to, heh.
06:45<LordAro>yes, i get the 308 from
06:47<LordAro>IE, Edge, FF & Chrome all redirect the 308 just fine
06:47<LordAro>so i've no idea what he's managed to do this time
06:47<LordAro>DNS weirdness somewhere, probably
06:50<peter1139>Not using a web browser, I suspect.
06:50<TrueBrain>depending on your tool, it doesn't follow redirects
06:51<TrueBrain>and if you don't know how to read headers .....
06:51<TrueBrain>LordAro: it is an IPv6, lets see if that is in the whois database
06:51<TrueBrain>Deutsche Telekom AG
06:54<TrueBrain>too bad, would have been funny :D
06:55<TrueBrain>(btw, the 308 is because he hits http instead of https)
06:55<TrueBrain>in case that wasnt clear :P
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07:10<peter1139>Not really. 301 vs 308 is to do with POST staying POST, not http vs https.
07:10<TrueBrain>I wasn't talking about 308 vs 301 :)
07:11<TrueBrain>I was reffering to the fact he got a 308 :)
07:11<TrueBrain>referring :)
07:11<peter1139>Ah, well, we knew that :D
07:11<TrueBrain>I assumed as much :P
07:11<Eddi|zuHause>a propos hering
07:11<peter1139>Is it lunch time yet?
07:11<peter1139>Kinda early for me but tummy rumbling.
07:12<Eddi|zuHause>that, and i actually have to go to a place...
07:16<peter1139>Gonna let my brie warm up a bit first.
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07:47<Samu> works here
07:47<Samu>didn't work on the other
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07:49<Samu>if they plan to move me to the other side...
07:50<Samu>oh fuck, this is not the life I had in mind
07:50<Samu>no admin privileges there either
07:50<Samu>this sucks, I can't do shit
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07:53<Samu>I need my computer, or I'm going insane
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07:55<peter1139>Didn't work in what, though?
07:57<Samu>some other system where I got the 308 error when accessing
07:57<peter1139>What *software*?
07:57<Samu>this is kind of an institution
07:57<Samu>has multiple systems on some domain
07:57<Samu>it was internet explorer
07:58<Samu>not sure which version
07:58<Samu>but it was also windows 7
07:59<peter1139>So probably something ancient that shouldn't be on the Internet anyway.
08:00<Samu>didn't look like a dated version, but not sure which one it is
08:00<Samu>probably IE9?
08:01<Samu>whichever IE comes installed with windows 7 as minimum version
08:02<peter1139>That would be something obsolete, yes.
08:03<Samu>youtube worked there
08:05<Samu>here, there's IE11, just checked
08:05<Samu>and google chrome
08:05<Samu> 75.0.3770.142
08:06<Samu>and there there was only IE, but didn't see which one
08:07<Samu>I dont think i can go to the other side anytime soon now
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08:18<Eddi|zuHause><TrueBrain> <-- am i the only one thinking finding money exploits in openttd is like shooting fish in a barrel?
08:23<Eddi|zuHause>and he didn't even do the tree exploit "correctly"
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08:44<Arveen>hehe, le interesting
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09:04<Eddi|zuHause>"what portion of your audience wasn't born when this game came out?" ~ "45%"
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13:14<frosch123>100% ?
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14:35<andythenorth>2 trains to draw
14:35<andythenorth>both small
14:36<andythenorth>small is hardest
14:36<andythenorth>except for big
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17:31<Samu>iamamiwhoami; drops
17:31<Samu>just some insanity music videos
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17:40<Samu>the most interesting song names ever!
17:40<Samu>and videos too while at it
17:41<Samu>ok, im off to sleep, take care
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20:16<Beerbelott1>FLHerne: I used your trick to avoid transboarding trains into road vehicles (or more generally transboarding quicker vehicles in slower ones): it works great! N more huge transfer money becoming poor real income
20:17<Beerbelott1>However, looking at cargo destinations, I still see cargo from other cities having for destination a station from the road loop on the other end of a train connection
20:19<Beerbelott1>Hence it seems the original destination for that cargo is not honoured... yet it works? How come some cargo might be planned for a destination which is not (and never has been) reachable?
20:20<Beerbelott1>Technically the station is part of the graph, but because of those "no loading" orders, the graph is asymmetric
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