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02:19<andythenorth>o/
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02:54<nielsm>morning
03:02<andythenorth>hi
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04:08<TrueBrain>00:23 <LordAro> that seems... undesirable <- it is; and because you did not backport the DorpsGek commits, it will keep doing that :P
04:08<TrueBrain>(it uses the .dorpsgek.yml from the branch targeted)
04:08<TrueBrain>I wonder if it should always use 'master', or if we should backport the DorpsGek commits ...
04:09<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh merged pull request #7719: Add: Allow GameScript to demolish without a company https://git.io/fjhIm
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04:27<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh opened pull request #7728: Fix #7479: Don't close construction windows when changing client name https://git.io/JeeIM
04:39<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on issue #7525: Autorenew vehicle option to Basic settings https://git.io/fjOmN
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04:54<andythenorth>ha ha graphics generation :D
04:54<andythenorth>never fails to amuse
04:56<andythenorth>4 hours of code will result in about 270 different combinations of intermodal containers
04:57<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh opened pull request #7729: Add #7525: Allow autoreplace with same model vehicle https://git.io/JeeIF
04:57<andythenorth>for different wagon lengths, cargos etc :P
04:58<andythenorth>now I just need to write a sprite sorter, because container order is different depending on orientation, e.g. NE vs SW :P
05:04<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh updated pull request #7729: Add #7525: Allow autoreplace with same model vehicle https://git.io/JeeIF
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05:33<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on issue #7703: Inactive industries make inappropriate/unlogical sounds https://git.io/JeeLZ
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07:31<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl commented on pull request #7729: Add #7525: Allow autoreplace with same model vehicle https://git.io/JeeqK
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08:58<andythenorth>yo
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11:10<andythenorth>I definitely won't regret this in future
11:11<andythenorth>container_sprites = container_sprites_for_this_variant[[226, 240, 244].index(pixel[3])]
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11:51<Samu>wow i just saw a town producing more mail than pass
11:51<Samu>10 mail, 8 pass
11:52<Samu>now I start to understand why my AI "prefers" mail routes
11:58<Samu>I need a different strategy to select viable towns
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12:30<Eddi|zuHause>do i have enough confidence in this soldering to actually plug it in now?
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12:58<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JMcKiern updated pull request #7710: WIP: Fix bugs in airport finite state machines https://git.io/fjp0Y
13:11<Samu>found a bug that was skewing cargoclass selection
13:11<Samu>fixed*
13:12<Samu>let's see now what the AI "prefers"
13:14<Samu>better
13:16<Samu>PASS, then MAIL, then PASS - no path found, then MAIL - no path found, then PASS, then MAIL - no suitable town found, then PASS, then MAIL . currently unfinished
13:16<Samu>net result
13:16<Samu>3 PASS routes, 1 MAIL route
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13:19<nielsm>https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1225175#p1225175 <- at least one positive report back from 1.9.3 rc1 :)
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13:25<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Eddi-z commented on pull request #7729: Add #7525: Allow autoreplace with same model vehicle https://git.io/JeeZz
13:26<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JMcKiern commented on pull request #7710: WIP: Fix bugs in airport finite state machines https://git.io/JeeZ2
13:26<andythenorth>nielsm: :)
13:26<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #7729: Add #7525: Allow autoreplace with same model vehicle https://git.io/JeeZV
13:27<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JMcKiern updated pull request #7710: WIP: Fix bugs in airport finite state machines https://git.io/fjp0Y
13:29*andythenorth generating shadows for sprites
13:29<andythenorth>overkill much? :P
13:31<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Eddi-z commented on pull request #7729: Add #7525: Allow autoreplace with same model vehicle https://git.io/JeeZw
13:32<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JMcKiern commented on pull request #7710: Fix: Fix bugs in airport finite state machines https://git.io/JeeZr
13:35<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #7710: Fix: Fix bugs in airport finite state machines https://git.io/JeeZ6
13:39<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Eddi-z commented on pull request #7710: Fix: Fix bugs in airport finite state machines https://git.io/JeeZD
13:43<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Eddi-z commented on pull request #7710: Fix: Fix bugs in airport finite state machines https://git.io/JeeZH
13:44<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #7710: Fix: Fix bugs in airport finite state machines https://git.io/JeeZQ
13:54<andythenorth>hmm
13:55<andythenorth>I once used 'replace all vehicles' to win the high score
13:55<andythenorth>it's a necessary exploit iirc
13:55<andythenorth>to win the Very Valuable Interesting Goals in the original game :)
13:56<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh opened pull request #7730: Change: Use vehicle model age for station rating calculation https://git.io/JeeZx
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13:56<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #7730: Change: Use vehicle model age for station rating calculation https://git.io/JeeZp
13:57<andythenorth>can't remember why I needed to do that
13:57<nielsm>andythenorth: probably the "all vehicles older than 2 years had a profit of at least £10k last year" one
13:58<andythenorth>yes that sounds about right
13:58<andythenorth>winning requires buying all new vehicles, and selling all non-profitable
13:58<andythenorth>it was quite boring :)
13:59<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #7729: Add #7525: Allow autoreplace with same model vehicle https://git.io/Jeene
14:24<Eddi|zuHause>that's the most useless score...
14:24<Eddi|zuHause>and practically impossible with cargodist
14:25<andythenorth> it requires a specific network :P
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15:33<Eddi|zuHause>... if i disappear now, it exploded in my face (or short-circuited, throwing out the fuse)
15:35<andythenorth>oof
15:37<Eddi|zuHause>i actually got picture
15:54<andythenorth>hurrah
15:55<Eddi|zuHause>now i've got to redo this color correction stuff :p
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16:17<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] sirkoz opened issue #7731: Under WinXP OpenTTD fails to sort savegames by date https://git.io/JevsA
16:18<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh approved pull request #7727: Fix: Use natural sort when sorting the file list. https://git.io/Jevsp
16:18<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh merged pull request #7727: Fix: Use natural sort when sorting the file list. https://git.io/fjjjC
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16:26<nielsm>I'm very tempted to close that ticket as "please stop using a 17 years old os"
16:28<LordAro>we only just stopped supporting DOS :p
16:29<LordAro>technically speaking, SP3 is only 11 years old
16:29<LordAro>given it's such a significant change
16:30<nielsm>:|
16:31<nielsm>anyway it's probably something the "compatible with old versions" standard library does, since it just calls stat and pulls the mtime
16:33<FLHerne>I think that would be sane?
16:34<FLHerne>Encouraging people to use an OS that's completely insecure seems irresponsible, really
16:35<milek7>i think remote vulnerabilities are still patched
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16:48<Eddi|zuHause>i've only heard of one single patch for XP in the past few years
16:51<milek7>https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/search.aspx?q=sp3+xp
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16:55<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on issue #7731: Under WinXP OpenTTD fails to sort savegames by date https://git.io/JevsA
17:03<milek7>how it does even work on xp? it shouldn't be using v141_xp toolset?
17:03<nielsm>yeah...
17:03<Eddi|zuHause>i suppose you can compile it somehow...
17:03<Eddi|zuHause>i don't think we compile for XP anymore
17:04<nielsm>actually yeah, I think it may be a mingw build
17:05<Eddi|zuHause>btw, i'm all for closing that as invalid
17:07<milek7>iirc mingw uses msvcrt.dll that MS says it shouldn't be used by applications ;P
17:09<nielsm>yeah... mingw does the entire standard library thing wrong
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17:12<supermop_Home_>hi all
17:48<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JMcKiern commented on pull request #7710: Fix: Fix bugs in airport finite state machines https://git.io/JevZl
17:48<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JMcKiern updated pull request #7710: Fix: Fix bugs in airport finite state machines https://git.io/fjp0Y
17:51<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JMcKiern commented on pull request #7710: Fix: Fix bugs in airport finite state machines https://git.io/JevZR
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20:29<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl commented on pull request #7730: Change: Use vehicle model age for station rating calculation https://git.io/JeJXO
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21:43<DorpsGek_III>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Eddi-z commented on pull request #7730: Change: Use vehicle model age for station rating calculation https://git.io/JeJdT
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