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04:10<@peter1138>hi
04:10<Wolf01>o/
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04:55<andythenorth>oof oftc keeps dumping me in this new irc client
04:55<andythenorth>other irc servers stay up :P
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07:35<Samu>hi
07:36<andythenorth>hi
07:49<rotterdxm>hi!
07:50<LordAro>!ih
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08:16<supermop_Home>ooof
08:18<supermop_Home>blue jeans mtg with client and another of their consultants in Sweden = 8 am video call after working til 3:30 on materials for the call
08:19<andythenorth>ouch
08:19<supermop_Home>really hoping i can avoid turning my camera on
08:19<supermop_Home>its not a pretty sight
08:20<Samu>why's that cloning a vehicle in test mode costs 0?
08:20<Samu>as an AI
08:20<supermop_Home>i want to clone a coffee for 0 cost
08:23<Samu>another visual studio update... geee, will they ever stop?
08:24<supermop_Home>how's borisland andythenorth?
08:25<andythenorth>sunny
08:29<Samu>must investigate why CloneVehicle in test mode costs 0
08:29<Samu>but first, lunch
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08:46<supermop_Home>oof this call is scheduled to be 4 hours long
08:56<andythenorth>FML?
08:56<andythenorth>has anyone yet said "I'm going for a poo?"
08:59<Eddi|zuHause>you mean, today? :p
08:59<andythenorth>on that call :P
09:00<supermop_Home>haha
09:00<supermop_Home>i'm on mute
09:01<supermop_Home>1 hour in we are at least 15 min behind the agenda
09:01<andythenorth>I'm usually 1 hour behind 15 mins in
09:01<supermop_Home>so maybe it will be a bonus 5 hour call
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10:06<Samu>found the problem
10:06<Samu>the command failed
10:07<Samu>for failed commands, it doesn't get the estimated cost :(
10:07<Samu>but it failed because there was not enough money
10:07<Samu>that should be the estimated cost to display
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10:10<@planetmaker>good when you can or even should mute yourself and have no video :)
10:37<DorpsGek_III_>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened issue #8045: AI estimated costs are 0 for commands that fail while returning a cost https://git.io/JvSaL
10:43<Samu>who's a DoCommand expert here? :o
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10:47<Samu>i have a "fix", but it's a risky one
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11:04<DorpsGek_III_>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened pull request #8046: Fix #8045: [AI/GS] Estimate costs for failed commands https://git.io/JvSaM
11:06<Samu>I may expect a regression fail in this case
11:06<Samu>depends on what it does
11:14<Samu>wow, didn't fail
11:14<LordAro>Samu: you should try to improve the regression test in which case
11:19<Samu>for this particular test, regression needs to have no money to clone a vehicle
11:19<Samu>regression as far as I see, works with 500k money
11:20<LordAro>you just need to try to do something that would be too expensive
11:20<LordAro>try to delete the ocean or something
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11:39<Samu>oh, in human company, it errors out, with the cost needed
11:40<Samu>still, it returns the cost
11:43<Samu>https://i.imgur.com/UoqtliQ.png
11:43<Samu>i pressed shift-click
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12:02<Samu>What my AI does: It estimates the cost needed first, then loans necessary money and buys vehicle, it does this until it builds all aircraft or until it runs out of money https://i.imgur.com/nA9GIJm.png
12:03<Samu>estimated clone vehicle cost was 0 for 1.10, it loaned 0 and tried to build aircraft :(
12:03<Samu>failed
12:03<LordAro>don't ramble, Samu
12:04<rotterdxm>X)
12:05<rotterdxm>i blame coronavirus induced isolation, it´s happening everywhere
12:11<Samu>now I remember why I had 2 different clone vehicle functions on my ai
12:56<rotterdxm>wow hardcore internet trouble in NL
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13:31<Wolf01>I just scolded the boss.
13:42<Eddi|zuHause>did it help?
13:42<Wolf01>I don't know, I sent an email to the entire team, I think it's coming here to kill me
13:49<rotterdxm>depends on how popular your boss is
13:49<rotterdxm>can the sound of guillotines being erected be heard in your cubicle? you may be safe
13:51<Eddi|zuHause>cubicle? home office more likely
13:51<Wolf01>The fact he didn't reply yet may mean that he acknowledged his own fault (usually he doesn't excuse for that)
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14:34<Samu>i tried enabling disasters
14:35<Samu>zepellins crashing into small airports make my AI bankrupt!
14:38<Samu>incredibly difficult :p
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14:43<Samu>now that I want the zepelin to crash, it doesn't happen
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15:10<Wolf01>Samu: it's not difficult to write zellepins ;)
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15:38<andythenorth>quiet eh
15:39<andythenorth>I have been playing OpenTTD but eh
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15:46<Samu>I upped the difficulty to recessions: on, disasters: on, breakdowns: normal and now testing if the ai survives this
15:47<Samu>disasters are only trouble in 1950s
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15:52<Samu>t.t bankrupted
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15:55<Samu>finally got the zeppelin crash [img]https://i.imgur.com/VdU0FUj.png[/img]
15:55<Samu>eats profits for 1 year
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16:06<Eddi|zuHause>i've been playing stellaris, but it's going not-quite-right
16:07<Samu>recession in 1980, lasting 1 year https://i.imgur.com/eIteU3E.png
16:07<Samu>i don't see my AI surviving this...
16:07<Samu>for long
16:07<Eddi|zuHause>like, i've bought the federations dlc, and then started an isolationist empire that can't join a federation :p
16:09<Eddi|zuHause>and also, as an isolationist empire, i'm constantly thinking "if only i could declare offensive war to capture this planet"...
16:11<Samu>bankrupted in 1998 :( man, so sad
16:22<Samu>i need to think when to spend money in town actions
16:24<Samu>building statues and advertising campaigns is cool, but... under these conditions is risky
16:31<Samu>bankrupted in 2001 t.t
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17:07<Samu>wow, AI is picking Airtaxi A21 instead of Darwin 600
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17:08<Samu>ah, I see, it's due to reliability
17:09<Samu>damn it, bankrupted in 2002
17:18<Samu>testing making the AI a bit more picky about placing airports
17:19<Samu>now it requires 12 houses producing passengers around a suitable place for airport
17:19<Samu>instead of... any
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18:16<Wolf01>https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aGgQ6GG_460s.jpg hmmmm
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19:19<Eddi|zuHause>how are there 4 names for meals, when there should be only 3?
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20:04<Eddi|zuHause>"the game now pauses on load and saves the camera position"... thanks, cities:skylines, took you only 5 years? :p
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