| --- | Log | opened Tue Feb 09 00:00:06 2021 |
| --- | Day | changed Tue Feb 09 2021 |
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| 04:14 | <Wolf01> | So, after 21 days you can't be ill anymore, no matter what... ok, I'll start smart wrecking then |
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| 07:23 | <TrueBrain> | Lol .. arbitrary amount of days being arbitrary :D |
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| 08:01 | <Wolf01> | How is going with Open Tiles To Draw (correctly expanded acronym) deployment on linux? |
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| 08:18 | <TrueBrain> | running every night; seems to be doing fine :) |
| 08:19 | <Wolf01> | :) |
| 08:19 | <Wuzzy> | Hello, I have made a PR that would make all sounds in OpenSFX libre, check it out here: https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenSFX/pull/13 |
| 08:21 | <TrueBrain> | https://steamcommunity.com/app/1536610/discussions/0/3111394035971437199/ <- some questions are just plain weird |
| 08:23 | <Wolf01> | It's like people need to ask questions only because they can |
| 08:23 | <TrueBrain> | and not do the bare minimum to find out themselves |
| 08:23 | <Wolf01> | No matter what if they make sense or are really interested on the reply |
| 08:24 | <LordAro> | the mouse cursor one is interesting |
| 08:24 | <LordAro> | i feel like that was fixed in 1.10 |
| 08:25 | <TrueBrain> | it feels like someone thinks he is not getting enough attention, honestly |
| 08:25 | <TrueBrain> | he posted it in two places |
| 08:25 | <TrueBrain> | in a way that I would consider ... "high demand" :P |
| 08:26 | <TrueBrain> | LordAro: https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/7006 <- still an open issue at least |
| 08:27 | <Wolf01> | I watched a streaming from Japan on youtube some days ago where people asked the guys absurd questions, totally unrelated with what they were doing, a lot of personal questions and only 1-3 asked about what they were doing or the current situation... Streamers: "we are now approaching the SkyTree in Tokyo" RandomGuy: "do you like anime?" |
| 08:29 | <LordAro> | perhaps |
| 08:30 | <TrueBrain> | right, replied to all except that hardware cursor thingy |
| 08:31 | <TrueBrain> | that is just a rude post, so I don't feel like replying to it :D |
| 08:31 | <TrueBrain> | when people start to use "obvious fix", I sign out :P |
| 08:32 | <TrueBrain> | that said, OpenTTD's way of rendering is a bit odd and off |
| 08:32 | <TrueBrain> | especially on Windows now :) |
| 08:36 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain opened issue #8658: With win32 video driver, mouse movement is very sluggish https://git.io/JtrLA |
| 08:36 | <TrueBrain> | finally made the ticket \o/ |
| 08:36 | <TrueBrain> | we should fix that for 1.11 honestly .. but I just don't knw how :) |
| 08:37 | <LordAro> | closed, duplicate of #7006 :p |
| 08:37 | <TrueBrain> | not really :) |
| 08:37 | <TrueBrain> | it is not flickering for me, sorry :P |
| 08:38 | <LordAro> | i've never noticed it either |
| 08:38 | <TrueBrain> | I really wouldn't even know what they talk about, honestly |
| 08:38 | <TrueBrain> | as the mouse is always drawn, as far as I know |
| 08:38 | <TrueBrain> | sluggish, sure |
| 08:38 | <TrueBrain> | but flickering? |
| 08:38 | <TrueBrain> | anyway, I am pretty sure OpenGL will fix their issue, honestly |
| 08:39 | <TrueBrain> | so I am not too worried about 7006 |
| 08:39 | <TrueBrain> | 8658 on the other hand, is a real issue .. Sleep(1) taking 60+ms really is an issue |
| 08:39 | <TrueBrain> | @calc 1000 / 60 |
| 08:39 | <@DorpsGek> | TrueBrain: 16.666666666666668 |
| 08:39 | <TrueBrain> | bit low fps :D |
| 08:39 | <LordAro> | mm |
| 08:39 | <milek7> | use timeBeginPeriod? |
| 08:40 | <LordAro> | i think i might have been linked this from here, but... https://randomascii.wordpress.com/2020/10/04/windows-timer-resolution-the-great-rule-change/ |
| 08:40 | <TrueBrain> | LordAro: have you read my ticket at all? |
| 08:40 | <TrueBrain> | or just assumed it was about something? :P |
| 08:40 | <LordAro> | nope |
| 08:40 | <TrueBrain> | shame on you sir .. shame on you |
| 08:41 | <LordAro> | milek7 was the one who said timeBeginPeriod! |
| 08:54 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Wuzzy2 opened pull request #8659: Change: "(Business/Chair)man" to "(Business/Chair)person" https://git.io/Jtrqd |
| 08:54 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #8652: [OSX] Cleanup video driver. https://git.io/JtrqF |
| 08:54 | <TrueBrain> | LordAro: well, I would say: write it in the PR! But ... I already did that when opening it :P |
| 08:55 | <TrueBrain> | I sometimes remember URLs people give me! :D |
| 08:55 | <TrueBrain> | wow, nice review LordAro :D |
| 08:56 | <LordAro> | i should have lunch |
| 08:56 | <TrueBrain> | this was a better use of time :D |
| 08:56 | <LordAro> | but now i'm hungry :( |
| 08:56 | <supermop_Home> | what's for lunch? |
| 08:56 | <LordAro> | probably pasta |
| 08:56 | <LordAro> | because i'm feeling lazy |
| 08:57 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Wuzzy2 commented on pull request #8659: Change: "(Business/Chair)man" to "(Business/Chair)person" https://git.io/Jtrmk |
| 09:00 | <LordAro> | oh no |
| 09:00 | <LordAro> | i forgot i had a meeting at 2 |
| 09:12 | <TrueBrain> | oops ... |
| 09:20 | <@orudge> | Wuzzy: sorry, I didn't get a chance to look at it last night. I probably won't have time to look at it tonight either, but when I'm not busy with other things, I will try to have a look. Somebody else might want to look in the mean time of course anyway. |
| 09:21 | <Wuzzy> | ok |
| 09:21 | <Wuzzy> | plz notify me in chat when you reviewed |
| 09:22 | <Wuzzy> | because i plan to push follow-up PR right after that |
| 09:22 | <LordAro> | GH will email you by default |
| 09:23 | <Wuzzy> | orudge: or should I push the README/license.txt update in the same PR? |
| 09:23 | <Wuzzy> | to speed things up? |
| 09:24 | <LordAro> | There's no issues with having multiple PRs at once |
| 09:24 | <LordAro> | just put a big comment saying that "Depends on PR #xx" |
| 09:24 | <Wuzzy> | well, they depend on each other... |
| 09:24 | <LordAro> | we can cope, promise |
| 09:25 | <Wuzzy> | want to look at OpenSFX#13? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenSFX/pull/13 |
| 09:25 | <Wuzzy> | or rather, "hear"? 😉 |
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| 09:53 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] erenes commented on issue #8658: With win32 video driver, mouse movement is very sluggish https://git.io/JtrLA |
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| 09:56 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 commented on issue #8658: With win32 video driver, mouse movement is very sluggish https://git.io/JtrLA |
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| 10:33 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 opened pull request #14: Change readme, license, descriptions https://git.io/JtrZp |
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| 10:38 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 commented on issue #6: Seeking permission to re-license the sound edits by OpenTTD contributors https://git.io/Jtn8G |
| 10:38 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 closed issue #6: Seeking permission to re-license the sound edits by OpenTTD contributors https://git.io/Jtn8G |
| 10:44 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 opened issue #15: Release 1.0.0 https://git.io/JtrnF |
| 10:47 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 updated pull request #14: Change readme, license, descriptions https://git.io/JtrZp |
| 10:59 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] planetmaker approved pull request #13: Re-edit some sounds to relicense them https://git.io/JtrCk |
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| 11:39 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 updated pull request #14: Change readme, license, descriptions https://git.io/JtrZp |
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| 11:43 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 opened issue #16: Delete .devzone? https://git.io/Jtrlx |
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| 11:44 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 commented on issue #15: Release 1.0.0 https://git.io/JtrnF |
| 11:45 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 commented on issue #15: Release 1.0.0 https://git.io/JtrnF |
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| 11:59 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] grossws commented on pull request #7851: Change: add support for next/previous railtype global hotkeys https://git.io/Jtr8Q |
| 12:04 | <_dp_> | that way of adding hotkeys really is quite gross :p |
| 12:14 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #8658: With win32 video driver, mouse movement is very sluggish https://git.io/JtrLA |
| 12:15 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] planetmaker commented on issue #16: Delete .devzone? https://git.io/Jtrlx |
| 12:21 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenMSX] Wuzzy2 opened pull request #7: Replace outdated Mercurial stuff, update README https://git.io/JtrBG |
| 12:22 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] LordAro commented on issue #16: Delete .devzone? https://git.io/Jtrlx |
| 12:23 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenMSX] LordAro approved pull request #7: Replace outdated Mercurial stuff, update README https://git.io/JtrB0 |
| 12:24 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 opened pull request #17: Remove: .devzone directory https://git.io/JtrB2 |
| 12:25 | <TrueBrain> | indeed LordAro , removing .devzone is premature; it contains lot of valuable information for who-ever ports it to GitHub Actions :) |
| 12:25 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenMSX] Wuzzy2 commented on pull request #7: Replace outdated Mercurial stuff, update README https://git.io/JtrBo |
| 12:33 | <Wuzzy> | Where are the OpenGFX/OpenMSX/OpenSFX strings translated? |
| 12:33 | <LordAro> | they're not, currently |
| 12:33 | <LordAro> | so... the repo? |
| 12:33 | <Wuzzy> | ok |
| 12:37 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] Wuzzy2 opened pull request #52: Change: German translation https://git.io/JtrRl |
| 12:38 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenMSX] Wuzzy2 opened pull request #8: Remove: .devzone directory https://git.io/JtrR2 |
| 12:40 | <TrueBrain> | Wuzzy: just "removing" .devzone is not a good idea as we mentioned earlier already. It should be ported to GitHub Actions |
| 12:40 | <TrueBrain> | lot of valuable information in that folder to do just that |
| 12:40 | <TrueBrain> | something something not reinventing wheels :D |
| 12:40 | <Wuzzy> | hrm |
| 12:40 | <LordAro> | i'll hbe honest, there's not *a lot* of valuable information |
| 12:40 | <+glx> | yeah first convert, then close |
| 12:40 | <Wuzzy> | it will always be in history tho. but whatever |
| 12:41 | <TrueBrain> | LordAro: it saves someone from figuring out all those annoying ZIP=... ZIPFLAGS=... |
| 12:41 | <TrueBrain> | shit |
| 12:41 | <TrueBrain> | hmm, weird newline :D |
| 12:42 | <TrueBrain> | Wuzzy: basically, just removing it is the easy way out :) Doing it proper always takes a bit more time, but gives a much better result :) |
| 12:42 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenMSX] Wuzzy2 opened pull request #9: Change: German translation https://git.io/JtrRd |
| 12:42 | <TrueBrain> | LordAro: "make bundle_zip bundle_src ZIP="7za a" ZIP_FLAGS="-tzip -mx9"" <- I mean, would you have guessed that? :D |
| 12:42 | <Wuzzy> | Do you have a checklist of what that GitHub actions needs to do? |
| 12:42 | <LordAro> | probably not immediately |
| 12:44 | <Wuzzy> | also, isn't it a bit problematic that you'll want to make the release workflow (partially) dependant on a proprietary SaaS essentially? 🙁 |
| 12:44 | <TrueBrain> | Wuzzy: https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenGFX/commits/master/.github/workflows <- this is what I did for OpenGFX :) |
| 12:44 | <TrueBrain> | and how do you consider that a problem? Next step is: should you depend on Open Source someone else maintains? And before you know it, you are all doing it yourself :) |
| 12:45 | <TrueBrain> | especially in Open Source, you have to spend your time wisely |
| 12:45 | <TrueBrain> | it is the one commodity we have, and it is always in short supply |
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| 12:45 | <Wuzzy> | what does that have to do with anything? *confused face* |
| 12:45 | <Wuzzy> | i'm not sure if i understand the usecase of GitHub actions WRT OpenGFX/SFX/MSX |
| 12:46 | <LordAro> | a) checking that they actually build b) generating (release) bundles automatically |
| 12:46 | <TrueBrain> | a human typing in the right commands to make a release, uploading it to the right place, etc etc == baaaadddddddddddd |
| 12:47 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #8658: With win32 video driver, mouse movement is very sluggish https://git.io/JtrLA |
| 12:47 | <+glx> | if someone with at least 2004 wants to test :) |
| 12:47 | <TrueBrain> | wow, glx is quick |
| 12:47 | <TrueBrain> | sure |
| 12:47 | <+glx> | basically same as SDL |
| 12:47 | <TrueBrain> | I will add TIC/TOCs to proof it even :) |
| 12:47 | <TrueBrain> | SDL does this for you already |
| 12:47 | <TrueBrain> | nothing to do with SDL :) |
| 12:47 | <+glx> | yeah I check SDL source :) |
| 12:47 | <Wuzzy> | what will you do it MS will shutdown GitHub Actions? |
| 12:48 | <TrueBrain> | what-if, what-if .. you can write books full of what-ifs |
| 12:48 | <LordAro> | Wuzzy: the same thing we're doing now when devzone got "shutdown" |
| 12:48 | <Wuzzy> | i dont know the history of devzone tho |
| 12:48 | <LordAro> | the fact that the backend is proprietary is irrelevant |
| 12:48 | <LordAro> | it's just a platform |
| 12:49 | <TrueBrain> | or any of the other CFs we had? :P |
| 12:49 | <TrueBrain> | I lost count :D |
| 12:49 | <LordAro> | just a platform that we run a series of commands on |
| 12:49 | <+glx> | we used azure before GHA |
| 12:49 | <Wuzzy> | i see |
| 12:49 | <+glx> | and custom CF before that |
| 12:49 | <Wuzzy> | so if all else fails, releases *could* still be done manually if really needed? |
| 12:49 | <LordAro> | if the program itself actually depends on GH Actions/AWS/whatever i can understand |
| 12:49 | <LordAro> | exactly |
| 12:49 | <LordAro> | we're just using their computers |
| 12:50 | <Wuzzy> | ok so OpenX does not *really* depend then... |
| 12:50 | <LordAro> | bingo :) |
| 12:50 | <+glx> | it's just a tool |
| 12:50 | <+glx> | a nice tool |
| 12:50 | <LordAro> | the website and assorted other web infrastructure on the other hand... |
| 12:50 | <LordAro> | but that's necessary |
| 12:51 | <TrueBrain> | "depend" is even a strong word there LordAro :) |
| 12:51 | <LordAro> | true :) |
| 12:51 | <TrueBrain> | it all runs on OCI containers |
| 12:51 | <+glx> | btw it's way easier to write stuff for GHA than AsurePipelines (at least all the trial and error phase) |
| 12:51 | <TrueBrain> | "automate and abstract your work till you no longer have a job" .. they way everyone should approach IT :) |
| 12:52 | <Wuzzy> | I feel like we (as in, "we the FOSS community") need our own GitHub eventually. Like GitHub, but owned by The People(TM) instead of corporations, and fully FOSS-ed, of course. how awesome would that be if we had something like that? |
| 12:53 | <Wuzzy> | i mean, i get why GitHub exploded. the Network Effect is strong in that one, sadly 🙁 |
| 12:53 | <TrueBrain> | Wuzzy: I do not see how it is more or less awesome than GitHub? |
| 12:53 | <TrueBrain> | just for the fact of having? |
| 12:53 | <Wuzzy> | although i really really hate the bugtracking on GitHub |
| 12:53 | <+glx> | there's also GitLab I think |
| 12:53 | <TrueBrain> | I for one am really happy a big corp is taking on this job ... pretty sure it would burn up in flames if it was truly run by "The People" :P |
| 12:53 | <+glx> | haha you never touched other bug tracker then |
| 12:53 | <LordAro> | GitLab is marginally more open |
| 12:54 | <Wuzzy> | what is the worst bugtracker? |
| 12:54 | <Wuzzy> | I LOVE Bugzilla btw |
| 12:54 | <LordAro> | Bugzilla is decidedly showing its age |
| 12:54 | <LordAro> | and also it's a dead project |
| 12:54 | <Wuzzy> | idc. it works and has everything i need |
| 12:55 | <LordAro> | well good for you |
| 12:55 | <Wuzzy> | what does "showing its age" even mean? |
| 12:55 | <Wuzzy> | thats so vague |
| 12:55 | <+glx> | interface design mainly |
| 12:56 | <LordAro> | it's a large blob of perl which last had a release (even bugfix) nearly 3 years ago |
| 12:56 | <Wuzzy> | GitHub bugtracker sucks because you only have labels and thats it. no proper categories, no priorities, no severity, awful search, tiny amount of issues per-page |
| 12:57 | <LordAro> | agree, agree, agree, search has been very good in my experience, i've never had an issue though mostly agree it could be customisable |
| 12:57 | <Wuzzy> | there are only two states. open and closed. very cheap |
| 12:57 | <Wuzzy> | you can't really "save" your search, right? |
| 12:57 | <+glx> | we used to have categories, user never choose the right one |
| 12:57 | <TrueBrain> | all those fields we had for bugs ... most either not used or wrongly used :D |
| 12:57 | <TrueBrain> | that were fun times ... |
| 12:58 | <TrueBrain> | when importing to GitHub that was especially interesting :) |
| 12:58 | <Xaroth> | People only have one choice for github issues and they still use it wrongly, I mean... would you really want to have categories? |
| 12:58 | <Wuzzy> | well thats why you abstract this stuff away from the reporter as good as you can |
| 12:59 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on issue #8658: With win32 video driver, mouse movement is very sluggish https://git.io/JtrLA |
| 13:00 | <Wuzzy> | I feel like this argument about "old" interfaces is a very subject one. I never take arguments of this kind serious. |
| 13:01 | <Wuzzy> | if you had a choice, which bugtracker would u use for OpenTTD now? |
| 13:01 | <Xaroth> | Github |
| 13:01 | <TrueBrain> | why am I just waiting for this to end up in an "emacs is awesome" debate? :D |
| 13:01 | <Wuzzy> | what is so great about GitHub bugtracking? |
| 13:02 | <Wuzzy> | (compared to others) |
| 13:02 | <LordAro> | it's integrated into GitHub |
| 13:02 | <Xaroth> | ^ |
| 13:02 | <LordAro> | as long as it's vaguely functional, i don't really care otherwise |
| 13:02 | <Xaroth> | It's part of the development flow, and it's not a complete PITA for users to use |
| 13:02 | <LordAro> | as long as it's not Jirea |
| 13:02 | <LordAro> | -e |
| 13:02 | <Wuzzy> | LOL |
| 13:03 | <TrueBrain> | LordAro: well, good news, you will see a lot less Jira in corp-setups soon enough :) |
| 13:03 | <Wuzzy> | in my experience, GitHub-style bugtracking becomes really painful if you have like >900 issues. really hard to keep an good overview 🙁 |
| 13:03 | <Wuzzy> | since OpenTTD has "only" 100, perhaps not a big deal so far 🙂 |
| 13:04 | <Xaroth> | It's all a matter of how you manage it |
| 13:04 | <Xaroth> | the last Ansible sprint there were >2k issues and it was not a problem to go through them |
| 13:05 | <Wuzzy> | how? |
| 13:06 | <Xaroth> | a usable development flow and some collaboration? |
| 13:07 | <Wuzzy> | but 20+ pages of issues lol. i dont understand how you can deal with that. i really dont understand |
| 13:07 | <LordAro> | ansible use a *lot* of labels |
| 13:07 | <Xaroth> | yep |
| 13:07 | <Xaroth> | makes it easy to filter |
| 13:07 | <TrueBrain> | you can sort and filter on labels .. so you have unlimited "fields" |
| 13:07 | <Wuzzy> | my biggest issue is that there is no button for "sort bugs by priority/severity/importance" |
| 13:07 | <TrueBrain> | you can have severity, priority, and all that crap, with labels |
| 13:08 | <Wuzzy> | important bugs just dont rise to the top. |
| 13:08 | <Xaroth> | make labels for priority/severity/importance |
| 13:08 | <Xaroth> | and presto, you can filter on them :D |
| 13:08 | <Wuzzy> | but you can't sort by that, cant ya? |
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| 13:08 | <Xaroth> | Do you have to? |
| 13:08 | <Wuzzy> | of course! |
| 13:08 | <Xaroth> | if you want to know the most severe issues, you surely only want to see the most severe issues? |
| 13:08 | <Wuzzy> | important issues should rise to the top |
| 13:08 | <Xaroth> | who gives two hoots about the less severe ones |
| 13:09 | <Wuzzy> | lets say u have 5 importance levels. so you need 5 labels. meaning you have to do 5 independent searches |
| 13:09 | <Wuzzy> | you can't request something like "give me ALL issues, sorted by importance". it doesnt work |
| 13:09 | <Xaroth> | As opposed to doing a sort and then scrolling through 50 pages? :P |
| 13:10 | <Wuzzy> | well, the fact that GitHub only shows like 20 issues and that is hardcoded is another obvious UX fail |
| 13:10 | <LordAro> | bugzilla doesn't have any pagination |
| 13:10 | <Wuzzy> | ???? |
| 13:11 | <LordAro> | i'm pointing out to Xaroth why "scrolling through 50 pages" might not be a consideration for you |
| 13:12 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 opened pull request #8660: Fix: [Win32] Set minimum resolution for timers to 1ms. https://git.io/Jtrui |
| 13:12 | <Wuzzy> | oh right. i never noticed the lack of pagniation in bugzilla. guess i never missed such a feature |
| 13:12 | <FLHerne> | Yeah, bugzilla bug lists are one line of text |
| 13:13 | <Wuzzy> | i like to have all issues on one view, rather than spread out on 1000s of pages |
| 13:13 | <FLHerne> | I can scroll through hundreds of them |
| 13:13 | <FLHerne> | OTOH, bugzilla's UX for submitters totally sucks |
| 13:13 | <FLHerne> | Particularly if someone's overused the projects/categories lists |
| 13:13 | <Wuzzy> | well that one is true |
| 13:15 | <Wuzzy> | but in my experience, my bug reporters never had that big of a problem with bugzilla so far... |
| 13:15 | <Wuzzy> | but usually they get severity wrong, but i dont blame them. i just re-assign the severity myself. easy. |
| 13:15 | <Wuzzy> | (i dont have many bug reports lol) |
| 13:15 | <Xaroth> | Were those technical reporters or regular joe/jane reporters? |
| 13:17 | <Wuzzy> | both |
| 13:17 | <Wuzzy> | but mostly the latter |
| 13:17 | <Wuzzy> | i still think there is too much information they have to select |
| 13:17 | <Wuzzy> | info they dont neccessarily even have |
| 13:18 | <Wuzzy> | like "component" |
| 13:19 | <Wuzzy> | I agree, from the reporter view, the interface must be dumbed down as much as reasonably possible. |
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| 13:25 | <Wuzzy> | If the OpenSFX thing is finished, will there be a big announcement on the front page? |
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| 13:28 | <andythenorth> | FML |
| 13:28 | <TrueBrain> | what happened andythenorth ? :( |
| 13:29 | <andythenorth> | I am hungry |
| 13:29 | <andythenorth> | and nobody is making me food |
| 13:29 | <+glx> | haha OpenMSX Makefile is basically a copy paste of generic grf Makefile |
| 13:29 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/BaNaNaS] frosch123 opened pull request #79: Change: migrate OpenTTD user Hyronymus to GitHub user JOtto-NL https://git.io/Jtrzp |
| 13:30 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] planetmaker commented on issue #16: Delete .devzone? https://git.io/Jtrlx |
| 13:31 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] fmodesto opened issue #8661: Orders not showing correctly in the UI https://git.io/JtrgT |
| 13:31 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/BaNaNaS] TrueBrain approved pull request #79: Change: migrate OpenTTD user Hyronymus to GitHub user JOtto-NL https://git.io/JtrgI |
| 13:32 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/BaNaNaS] TrueBrain merged pull request #79: Change: migrate OpenTTD user Hyronymus to GitHub user JOtto-NL https://git.io/Jtrzp |
| 13:32 | <TrueBrain> | frosch123: they keep on coming :D |
| 13:32 | <TrueBrain> | andythenorth: you can pay people to make you dinner, you know that right? :D |
| 13:34 | <andythenorth> | I had forgotten! |
| 13:34 | <andythenorth> | I press a button and food arrives |
| 13:34 | <andythenorth> | on a scooter |
| 13:35 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] orudge approved pull request #8660: Fix: [Win32] Set minimum resolution for timers to 1ms. https://git.io/Jtrgg |
| 13:37 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] orudge commented on issue #16: Delete .devzone? https://git.io/Jtrlx |
| 13:42 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] planetmaker commented on pull request #14: Change readme, license, descriptions https://git.io/Jtr2k |
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| 14:56 | * | andythenorth made own food |
| 15:00 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on pull request #8652: [OSX] Cleanup video driver. https://git.io/JtroT |
| 15:01 | <supermop_Home> | trying to work on portfolio and digging for files across a pile of various external hdds and thumb drives |
| 15:01 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on pull request #8652: [OSX] Cleanup video driver. https://git.io/Jtrom |
| 15:02 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on pull request #8652: [OSX] Cleanup video driver. https://git.io/JtroG |
| 15:02 | <andythenorth> | michi_cc I don't have time to test any further (very much much work) |
| 15:02 | <andythenorth> | but |
| 15:02 | <andythenorth> | I am hoping to not work next week |
| 15:02 | <andythenorth> | or we could release a binary for other mac users maybe? |
| 15:03 | <+glx> | I think a build of the PR is doable |
| 15:03 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on pull request #8652: [OSX] Cleanup video driver. https://git.io/Jtro8 |
| 15:03 | <+glx> | release framework is ready for it |
| 15:05 | <andythenorth> | it would be useful I think |
| 15:06 | <@orudge> | I will give it a test when I get a chance (tomorrow I hope) |
| 15:06 | <andythenorth> | I have pretty much the highest spec mac laptop, which has weird performance bottlenecks, other people may have very different experiences |
| 15:14 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 commented on pull request #14: Change readme, license, descriptions https://git.io/Jtro5 |
| 15:22 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc closed issue #8658: With win32 video driver, mouse movement is very sluggish https://git.io/JtrLA |
| 15:22 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc merged pull request #8660: Fix: [Win32] Set minimum resolution for timers to 1ms. https://git.io/Jtrui |
| 15:23 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 opened issue #18: Make sounds for "unused" empty sounds? https://git.io/JtrK4 |
| 15:31 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] frosch123 commented on issue #18: Make sounds for "unused" empty sounds? https://git.io/JtrK4 |
| 15:37 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 commented on issue #18: Make sounds for "unused" empty sounds? https://git.io/JtrK4 |
| 15:40 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Wuzzy2 commented on issue #8619: Unused sounds https://git.io/Jt4Mc |
| 15:45 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 updated pull request #14: Change readme, license, descriptions https://git.io/JtrZp |
| 16:01 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 commented on issue #4: Clarifying legal status of rubidium42's sounds https://git.io/JtnqQ |
| 16:01 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 closed issue #4: Clarifying legal status of rubidium42's sounds https://git.io/JtnqQ |
| 16:05 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 opened pull request #19: Replace Mercurial code with Git code https://git.io/JtrPG |
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| 16:56 | <andythenorth> | bed! |
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| 17:13 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened issue #8662: Company HQ cannot be bulldozed https://git.io/JtrMF |
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| 17:27 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] orudge commented on issue #8662: Company HQ cannot be bulldozed https://git.io/JtrMF |
| 17:28 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on issue #8662: Company HQ cannot be bulldozed https://git.io/JtrMF |
| 17:29 | <_dp_> | you can flood it though |
| 17:29 | <TrueBrain> | you evil bastard! |
| 17:29 | * | _dp_ wonders how many citybuilder scripts crash with that |
| 17:30 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] planetmaker commented on pull request #14: Change readme, license, descriptions https://git.io/JtrDM |
| 17:37 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on issue #8661: Orders not showing correctly in the UI https://git.io/JtrgT |
| 17:40 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] orudge approved pull request #13: Re-edit some sounds to relicense them https://git.io/Jtry3 |
| 17:40 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] orudge merged pull request #13: Re-edit some sounds to relicense them https://git.io/JtzX8 |
| 17:40 | <_dp_> | hm... "refit" button is centered in orders, all others aren't :p |
| 17:41 | <_dp_> | totally unreladed I guess |
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| 17:41 | <_dp_> | ah, no, skip and delete are also centered xD |
| 17:43 | <_dp_> | simple buttons are centered but dropdowns are not |
| 17:43 | <_dp_> | and it gets even weirder when one change to the other |
| 17:45 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] LordAro requested changes for pull request #14: Change readme, license, descriptions https://git.io/JtryP |
| 17:46 | <@orudge> | LordAro: It is "macOS" these days |
| 17:46 | <LordAro> | thought it might be, but couldn't be bothered to check :p |
| 17:47 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] orudge requested changes for pull request #14: Change readme, license, descriptions https://git.io/JtryQ |
| 17:49 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] orudge approved pull request #17: Remove: .devzone directory https://git.io/JtryA |
| 17:50 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] orudge merged pull request #17: Remove: .devzone directory https://git.io/JtrB2 |
| 17:50 | <LordAro> | oh no |
| 17:50 | <LordAro> | we weren't going to do that until the actions were done |
| 17:51 | <LordAro> | ah well |
| 17:51 | <@orudge> | Ah, I missed that, sorry |
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| 18:04 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] psh opened issue #8663: Publish a docker image https://git.io/JtrSX |
| 18:05 | <@orudge> | Docker image, FlatPak, Snap, how many other versions of effectively the same thing can there possibly be :D |
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| 18:24 | <LordAro> | urgh, docker images |
| 18:24 | <LordAro> | how hard is "install dependencies, install openttd, install graphics pack" |
| 18:25 | <LordAro> | pretty sure that is written down somewhere.. |
| 18:27 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on issue #8663: Publish a docker image https://git.io/JtrSX |
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| 19:02 | <TrueBrain> | https://discourse.libsdl.org/t/sdl-moving-to-github/28700/5 |
| 19:02 | <TrueBrain> | The story sounds familiar :D |
| 19:05 | <@orudge> | I was just reading that |
| 19:06 | <@orudge> | and thought "yep" |
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| 19:18 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LC-Zorg commented on issue #8661: Orders not showing correctly in the UI https://git.io/JtrgT |
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| 21:41 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] psh commented on issue #8663: Publish a docker image https://git.io/JtrSX |
| 22:23 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 commented on pull request #14: Change readme, license, descriptions https://git.io/JtrNP |
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| 23:51 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] physkets commented on issue #8029: Black screen on SDL2-enabled OpenTTD, Sway and SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland https://git.io/Jv23P |
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