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---Logopened Fri Nov 26 00:00:19 2021
00:01<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] pleasejustgo opened issue #9717: [Bug]: Can't change resolution on retina screen https://git.io/JMq8I
00:20<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] pleasejustgo commented on issue #9712: [Bug]: Cities still build too many, too long, bridges that spoil the game map https://git.io/J17Rq
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02:20<riis>hey does anyone know hot to fix the authorizing issue when connecting to an MP server?
02:21<riis>ive had this a few times but it eventually seemed to fix itself till now
02:21<riis>i host a server, friend gets stuck at authorizing (2/6), gets stuck on it or timed out
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05:05<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/team] pvillaverde opened issue #269: [gl_ES] Translator access request https://git.io/JMmRt
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05:36<@peter1138>Ice/snow tomorrow... :/
05:36<LordAro>same
05:45<@peter1138>I'm up to PR 888 on my own internal project...
05:46<@peter1138>Well, the prjectend result is customer-facing
05:46<@peter1138>er.e.r.er.
05:46<@peter1138>Well, the project is customer-facing, but they aren't making PRs :D
06:02<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl commented on pull request #8398: Change: Distribute left over cargo to stations according to the highest remainder https://git.io/JMm6z
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08:11<@peter1138>Oh
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08:59<andythenorth>in backup news, there was a misplaced 0 in the vendor's explanation
09:08<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on issue #9717: [Bug]: Can't change resolution on retina screen https://git.io/JMq8I
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09:19<supermop_Home_>yo
09:22<LordAro>andythenorth: lol
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09:23<andythenorth>the quote failed the plausibility factor
09:25<FLHerne>andythenorth: So £2000/year?
09:25<FLHerne>that sounds like a lot, but a vaguely plausible lot
09:26<andythenorth>it's a lot for VMs that cost £200 - £800 each from the IaaS vendro
09:26<andythenorth>vendor *
09:26<andythenorth>including bandwidth etc
09:26<andythenorth>the actual backup quote is about £230 / VM / annum
09:27<andythenorth>this is just for the agent and management tools, storage, ingress, egress are not included
09:27<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #269: [gl_ES] Translator access request https://git.io/JMmRt
09:30<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #268: [id_ID] Translator access request https://git.io/J1AQv
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11:37<andythenorth>is time for entertaining train chat?
11:38<LordAro>steady on now
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11:52<supermop_Home_>entertrain me
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12:14<SpComb>andythenorth: £20/instance/month just for licensing/management, and then storage+transfer on top of that? Sounds plausible, but better be good
12:18<andythenorth>+1
12:18<andythenorth>_if_ it does what it says, the trade off in engineering time is real
12:18<andythenorth>depends if the reality lives up to the marketing
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13:11<SpComb>yeah, if they sell you some barely configured Tivoli Storage Manager without any kind of monitoring/alerting that doesn't even support any kind of consistent/snapshot backups for your instances, then noooo
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13:13<SpComb>I just use some combination of the cloud platform's own snapshot/replication/backups together with some custom LVM/rsync/ZFS based scripts (https://github.com/qmsk/backup)
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13:28<frosch123>https://lea.verou.me/2021/11/on-yak-shaving-and-md-block-an-html-element-for-markdown/ <- andythenorth: your brother?
13:29<frosch123>well, sister
13:35<andythenorth>sister
13:48<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/JMOuw
13:48<@DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
14:17<TrueBrain>Wow, building that component in two days with that many docs etc is impressive
14:17<TrueBrain>Not sure if it is bragging or complaining, that article :p
14:26<andythenorth>I think it's lolzing
14:29<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #8480: Feature: Extended depots https://git.io/JMOrh
14:35<andythenorth>so shall we do grf <-> json <-> gs for christmas then?
14:37<FLHerne>Why JSON?
14:37<TrueBrain>CSV?
14:38<andythenorth>xml
14:38<andythenorth>I would really prefer to exchange raw nfo
14:39<andythenorth>I had a superb idea that GS could cache a custom function into grf objects, which would be used for a callback
14:39<andythenorth>as raw nfo :P
14:40<andythenorth>it could even specify which callback it was for
14:43<dP>grf injection from gs, what a shitshow...
14:43<dP>but I dig it xD
14:45<FLHerne>bleh
14:46<andythenorth>seems like the logical next step
14:49<frosch123>pysq, when?
14:50<dP>I wouldn't put the word logic anywhere here but it's kinda the only way to do something within the current api
14:50<dP>when newgrf is too dumb to do anything and gs is too async
14:51<andythenorth>I would have phrased it differently but
14:51<andythenorth>eh
14:51<andythenorth>'maximise the possible lolz'
14:57<frosch123>meh, bananas author archaeology...
15:00<andythenorth>sounds.....boring :(
15:00<frosch123>it's sorting out other people's mess :)
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17:31<frosch123>hmm, why does dorpsgek keep on crying?
17:32<+glx>someone removed its admin rights ?
17:33<frosch123>https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/actions <- i do not even know what triggers it at this time of day
17:33<+glx>ah no it's still owner
17:33<frosch123> /bin/sh: bundle: not found
17:34<+glx>IIRC bundle is a ruby thing
17:36<frosch123>yeah, looks like some upstream changed something and released on a friday :p
17:41<andythenorth>the best time
17:43<frosch123>https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/blob/main/Dockerfile#L40 <- finally found it :)
17:44<frosch123>gh actions are still a mystery to me
17:44<+glx>main issue is https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/blob/main/Dockerfile#L27 I think
17:45<frosch123>2021-11-24 Alpine 3.15.0 released
17:45<+glx>or maybe not
17:45<frosch123>i guess something changed there
17:45<frosch123>possibly we need a different package to get "bundle"
17:45<+glx>but we definitely never install bundler, only update it
17:47<frosch123>https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/main/x86/ruby-bundler
17:47<frosch123>we do not explicitly install that, or anything that requires it
17:48<+glx>maybe it was included in another package before
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17:56<frosch123>https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/commit/main/ruby?id=4355713025637fcdb8e77969295f5c6fa9af53e6 <- looks suspicious
17:57<frosch123>i would claim we need to add ruby-bundler explicitly now. but i hope tb has some clue :)
17:58<+glx>looks like it previously worked by luck
17:58<+glx>adding ruby-bundler seems sane to me
18:06<andythenorth>I had to install bundler for local jekyll build since we started using jekyll
18:06<andythenorth>others did not....we didn't investigate further :P
18:07<andythenorth>this is probably irrelevant, but eh https://gist.github.com/andythenorth/d85c6e37aae5901c3ea746a6dffc7804
18:08<andythenorth>hmm sleep time
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18:08<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/website] frosch123 opened pull request #233: Fix: ruby-bundler is no longer installed indirectly, add it explicitly. https://git.io/JM3fk
18:15<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/website] glx22 approved pull request #233: Fix: ruby-bundler is no longer installed indirectly, add it explicitly. https://git.io/JM3fx
18:24<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/website] frosch123 merged pull request #233: Fix: ruby-bundler is no longer installed indirectly, add it explicitly. https://git.io/JM3fk
18:24<frosch123>still no idea why it triggers a build every hour
18:24<frosch123>does it keep trying until it succeeds?
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18:40<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/website] frosch123 created new tag: 1.4.41 https://git.io/JM3TS
18:41<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #9718: Fix: Suppress vehicle age warnings for stopped vehicles https://git.io/JM3Th
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18:56<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #9716: Fix: Don't try to rename OWNER_DEITY signs in-game https://git.io/JMeZx
18:58<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #9716: Fix: Don't try to rename OWNER_DEITY signs in-game https://git.io/JM3IS
19:11<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl commented on pull request #9716: Fix: Don't try to rename OWNER_DEITY signs in-game https://git.io/JM3tD
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