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| 00:02 | <Gustavo6046> | The helicopters keep complaining they have too few orders, clearly they have two |
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| 03:29 | <Eddi|zuHause> | maybe you sent them to hangar instead of a loading space |
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| 06:19 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc merged pull request #9776: Fix #9743: Rework macOS Touchbar. https://git.io/Jy5VO |
| 06:19 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc closed issue #9743: [Crash]: OpenTTD crashes on startup (MacBook Pro 2020, M1) https://git.io/JDCuI |
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| 06:20 | <LordAro> | 12.2 when? |
| 06:20 | <+michi_cc> | When you release? :D |
| 06:30 | <LordAro> | :o |
| 06:31 | <LordAro> | be easier if i had TrueBrain's script :p |
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| 06:55 | <TrueBrain> | Good thing I shared that with the group months ago :p |
| 06:55 | <TrueBrain> | But if you like I can also press some buttons |
| 06:58 | <TrueBrain> | several PRs with "backport requested" are still open |
| 06:58 | <TrueBrain> | maybe good to first resolve those? :) |
| 06:59 | <TrueBrain> | https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9738 <- backport? |
| 07:01 | <TrueBrain> | https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9718 <- backport? |
| 07:03 | <TrueBrain> | https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9689 <- you guessed it, backport? |
| 07:03 | <TrueBrain> | work for you LordAro :P |
| 07:08 | <+michi_cc> | Yes to 9689. |
| 07:08 | <TrueBrain> | just add the label please :) |
| 07:09 | <+michi_cc> | Already done. |
| 07:09 | <TrueBrain> | <3 |
| 07:09 | <+michi_cc> | There's just no DorpsGek update for labels :) |
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| 07:10 | <TrueBrain> | good point :) |
| 07:10 | <TrueBrain> | LordAro: https://gist.github.com/TrueBrain/bd73f25d687008d1b9497df422a979fc <- updated it with my latest, in case you lost the URL :P |
| 07:11 | <TrueBrain> | I wonder if I should clean up the code and just commit it .. |
| 07:11 | <+michi_cc> | 9738 too I guess. |
| 07:12 | <TrueBrain> | https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pulls?q=is%3Apr+label%3A%22backport+requested%22+is%3Aopen <- 3 PRs that could use a review before we start backporting |
| 07:13 | <TrueBrain> | https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pulls?q=is%3Apr+label%3A%22backport+requested%22+is%3Aclosed <- total list of things scheduled to be backported. I added a few what I think we missed, feel free to give it another look |
| 07:13 | <TrueBrain> | bit hard to see PRs we explicitly ruled out of backporting and aren't in 12.X yet .. |
| 07:14 | <TrueBrain> | https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pulls?q=is%3Apr+-label%3A%22backport+requested%22+is%3Amerged+sort%3Aupdated-desc+ <- best overview I can find, but it includes PRs that are touched because owner deleted their branch :) |
| 07:14 | <TrueBrain> | I wish I could sort on "merge date" |
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| 07:17 | <TrueBrain> | idiotic thing is that the information is available, just not sortable on :P |
| 07:20 | <TrueBrain> | ha, found a sneaky way around it: |
| 07:20 | <TrueBrain> | https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pulls?q=is%3Apr+-label%3A%22backport+requested%22+-label%3A%22backported%22+is%3Amerged+merged%3A%3E2021-11-08+ |
| 07:20 | <TrueBrain> | all PRs merged after 12.1 release :) |
| 07:21 | <TrueBrain> | 13.0 is looking rather empty :P :P |
| 07:51 | <Eddi|zuHause> | all developers are lazy... :p |
| 07:52 | <nielsm> | will this be the year without an april 1st release? |
| 07:53 | <Eddi|zuHause> | "someone" had to do an out-of-schedule release |
| 07:56 | <TrueBrain> | I regret NOTHING |
| 07:58 | <LordAro> | TrueBrain: what are the latest figures on servers, etc? |
| 08:00 | <TrueBrain> | https://openttd.grafana.net/dashboard/snapshot/DmDt2mx2zSZH3nlMPbTYjVzsSvNnr3jo |
| 08:00 | <TrueBrain> | nothing new really |
| 08:09 | <LordAro> | goodo |
| 08:10 | <LordAro> | curious direct ipv4/6 server registration spike for the last couple days |
| 08:38 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] feix303 commented on issue #9777: [Crash]: OpenTTD crashed when using keyboard shortcut for terrain leveling (Q,W,E) while laying tracks https://git.io/Jy5S4 |
| 08:41 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 commented on issue #9777: [Crash]: OpenTTD crashed when using keyboard shortcut for terrain leveling (Q,W,E) while laying tracks https://git.io/Jy5S4 |
| 08:48 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro closed issue #9777: [Crash]: OpenTTD crashed when using keyboard shortcut for terrain leveling (Q,W,E) while laying tracks https://git.io/Jy5S4 |
| 08:49 | <LordAro> | thanks james! |
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| 09:52 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] fRosTySann commented on issue #9641: [Bug]: Hardware acceleration makes the game sutter and slower https://git.io/JikYz |
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| 10:23 | <supermop_Home> | yo |
| 10:46 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 opened issue #9778: [Bug]: The MSYS builds fail on most recent PRs. https://git.io/JSTJg |
| 10:50 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on issue #9778: [Bug]: The MSYS builds fail on most recent PRs. https://git.io/JSTJg |
| 10:50 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro closed issue #9778: [Bug]: The MSYS builds fail on most recent PRs. https://git.io/JSTJg |
| 10:50 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on issue #9641: [Bug]: Hardware acceleration makes the game sutter and slower https://git.io/JikYz |
| 10:52 | <+michi_cc> | nielsm: We could always release a 13.0 with an (almost) empty changelog and live up to April 1st for once :p |
| 11:00 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] fRosTySann commented on issue #9641: [Bug]: Hardware acceleration makes the game sutter and slower https://git.io/JikYz |
| 11:02 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on issue #9641: [Bug]: Hardware acceleration makes the game sutter and slower https://git.io/JikYz |
| 11:09 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] fRosTySann commented on issue #9641: [Bug]: Hardware acceleration makes the game sutter and slower https://git.io/JikYz |
| 11:16 | <supermop_Home> | what does the block cycle do? |
| 11:29 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on issue #9641: [Bug]: Hardware acceleration makes the game sutter and slower https://git.io/JikYz |
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| 11:59 | <supermop_Home> | man i have looked through the sprite sheet so many times and still can't find the tropic grass |
| 11:59 | <supermop_Home> | i must be blind |
| 11:59 | <supermop_Home> | https://www.tt-wiki.net/images/ttwiki/4/4d/Ogfx1_base.png |
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| 12:09 | <@Rubidium> | supermop_Home: I reckon those sprites are in ogfxh_tropical, though look at https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:List_of_tiles to see which numbers you would need as the tropical GRF overwrite some sprites of the base GRF |
| 12:09 | <supermop_Home> | ah |
| 12:09 | <supermop_Home> | i really just need to copy paste the grass to use as quick base tile to a house |
| 12:10 | <supermop_Home> | so as long as i find the source png im fine |
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| 12:10 | <nielsm> | aren't houses composed of a land sprite and a building sprite? |
| 12:10 | <supermop_Home> | andythenorth do you use smart objects in Photoshop to composite bits of buildings? or just layers? |
| 12:11 | <supermop_Home> | nielsm the base tropic houses have their yard as part of the sprite |
| 12:11 | <andythenorth> | supermop_Home layers only |
| 12:12 | <nielsm> | if you just want the graphics to copy pixels from, go here: https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenGFX/tree/master/sprites/png/terrain |
| 12:12 | <supermop_Home> | i'm just trying to make a quick static grf to replace the base tropic houses with Hawaii looking ones |
| 12:13 | <supermop_Home> | andythenorth a lot of the 1910s-1940s houses in Honolulu are similar squarish cottages, but some of them are raised up one level: https://www.google.com/maps/@21.2803727,-157.8153895,3a,75y,69.74h,79.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sY9UvK4oCWJ0HSZ2caedtoQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en |
| 12:14 | <supermop_Home> | i like how google street view blured out the sign that says aloha on the bench |
| 12:16 | <andythenorth> | supermop_Home composite sprites in game? o_O |
| 12:16 | <andythenorth> | hmm |
| 12:16 | * | andythenorth wonders when cargo limit will be 16^2? |
| 12:16 | <andythenorth> | go big etc |
| 12:16 | * | andythenorth has run out in FIRS |
| 12:16 | <supermop_Home> | andythenorth that's the plan for a house set, but i don't think i can do tht for static grf |
| 12:16 | <andythenorth> | oh static grf |
| 12:16 | <andythenorth> | oof |
| 12:17 | <supermop_Home> | at least tropic only has 5 houses |
| 12:17 | <supermop_Home> | seems kind of limiting |
| 12:17 | <supermop_Home> | i use improved town layouts a lot, but i don't like seeing all the base tropic houses |
| 12:18 | * | andythenorth has about 70 cargos |
| 12:18 | <andythenorth> | oof |
| 12:19 | <supermop_Home> | also if i draw a good enough tropic hotel would you put it in FIRS as climate dependent? |
| 12:20 | <andythenorth> | maybe yes |
| 12:20 | <supermop_Home> | no obligation |
| 12:20 | <andythenorth> | I didn't do the arctic one yet either :) |
| 12:21 | <andythenorth> | hmm 84 cargos |
| 12:21 | <andythenorth> | oof |
| 12:21 | <andythenorth> | the problem is stuff like newspapers |
| 12:21 | <andythenorth> | and motorail |
| 12:21 | <andythenorth> | cargo inflation |
| 12:22 | <andythenorth> | are military cargos banned due to 'no war' rule? |
| 12:30 | <supermop_Home> | sure |
| 12:31 | <FLHerne> | andythenorth: the 'rule' that even the original game doesn't follow, sure :p |
| 12:31 | <nielsm> | can't stop anyone from making them (GPL license text allows anyone to use the software for any purpose), the thing that could be was bananas not accepting certain themes to be hosted |
| 12:32 | <supermop_Home> | does anyone know which two groups of colors are the brick house recolor sets? https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/PalettesAndCoordinates#Palettes |
| 12:32 | <andythenorth> | https://wiki.openttd.org/en/Development/Objectives |
| 12:33 | <andythenorth> | "Provide a game that is free from war themes and conflict; hence suitable for all age groups" |
| 12:33 | <nielsm> | it's an objective of the development of the main branch |
| 12:34 | <andythenorth> | it seems reasonable |
| 12:34 | <andythenorth> | realism suggests army tanks for this edition of FIRS though :P |
| 12:34 | <andythenorth> | also munitions |
| 12:35 | <andythenorth> | and a naval shipyard |
| 12:36 | <andythenorth> | wiki history doesn't indicate who authored the objectives |
| 12:56 | <TrueBrain> | To be clear, BaNaNaS has no such restriction in place |
| 12:56 | <TrueBrain> | And never had |
| 13:05 | <supermop_Home> | really it just comes down to how you want to manage the andy brand |
| 13:06 | <supermop_Home> | how about 'special heavy vehicles' |
| 13:07 | <supermop_Home> | and munitions as 'Self applying Reagents' |
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| 13:13 | <andythenorth> | peacekeeping vehicles? :P |
| 13:13 | <andythenorth> | I'll need 16k cargos first anyway |
| 13:14 | <andythenorth> | I'm up to 96 now |
| 13:14 | <andythenorth> | I split alcohol into beer, cider and wine |
| 13:18 | <@Rubidium> | add a distillery, so you can go from those low percentage alcohol products to high percentage ones ;) |
| 13:18 | <TrueBrain> | ugh, new month again .. spammmm |
| 13:18 | <andythenorth> | I was thinking about spirits |
| 13:18 | <andythenorth> | wine covers pink, white, red, sparkling etc |
| 13:18 | <andythenorth> | so can spirits cover whisky, vodka etc? |
| 13:19 | <andythenorth> | or should I split them? |
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| 13:20 | <andythenorth> | whisky wagons https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brwhiskycontainerfbbfja |
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| 13:28 | <LordAro> | loud noises |
| 13:28 | <TrueBrain> | and it aint over |
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| 13:30 | <TrueBrain> | 127 messages pyup triggered |
| 13:30 | <TrueBrain> | lol |
| 13:32 | <LordAro> | nice |
| 14:09 | <andythenorth> | ok so we don't have 96 cargos |
| 14:09 | <andythenorth> | so I have to consolidate :P |
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| 14:13 | <supermop_Home> | andythenorth does it get aged in the tanker for 12 years? |
| 14:14 | <supermop_Home> | make cargo decay inverse if whiskey is traveling on a ship |
| 14:15 | <andythenorth> | oof |
| 14:15 | <andythenorth> | cargo aging |
| 14:15 | <andythenorth> | 128 cargos anyone? |
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| 14:42 | <andythenorth> | ok consolidation time |
| 14:42 | <andythenorth> | :( |
| 14:42 | <supermop_Home> | :( |
| 14:42 | <andythenorth> | all the beautiful cargos that must go |
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| 14:50 | <supermop_Home> | ok i figured out which colors are used for the church brick palette swap |
| 14:50 | <andythenorth> | \o/ |
| 14:50 | <supermop_Home> | but neither is very useful for Hawaiian house shingles |
| 14:50 | <supermop_Home> | well the 'red' church colors are but the tan ones are not |
| 14:51 | <supermop_Home> | most houses there have light grey shingles or reddish brown, or a green or silver metal roof |
| 14:52 | <supermop_Home> | older ones will have dark grey, or brown wood shingles |
| 14:52 | <supermop_Home> | i only get 5 houses in base set tho so will probably keep all rooves same color |
| 14:53 | <supermop_Home> | town set can composite them on |
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| 15:45 | <Eddi|zuHause> | andythenorth: 64k cargos when? :p |
| 16:14 | <andythenorth> | yes |
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| 16:38 | <FLHerne> | andythenorth: "historical re-enactment props" |
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| 16:45 | <andythenorth> | I could make a game where you have to produce computer games |
| 16:45 | <andythenorth> | in 1994 |
| 16:45 | <andythenorth> | in Yate |
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| 23:12 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perezdidac updated pull request #9043: Feature: ability to build overlapping bridges on different axes https://git.io/JOWU8 |
| --- | Log | closed Sun Jan 02 00:00:11 2022 |
