| --- | Log | opened Sat Jan 08 00:00:20 2022 |
| 00:15 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/team] chupper100 opened issue #285: [vi_VN] Translator access request https://git.io/J93HI |
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| 04:02 | <andythenorth> | yo |
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| 05:12 | <TrueBrain> | battling Rust lifetime |
| 05:12 | <TrueBrain> | always fun :) |
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| 06:02 | <TrueBrain> | and ... we are back to "read past end of pseudo-sprite" :P |
| 06:02 | <TrueBrain> | stupid varaction2 chains |
| 06:24 | <TrueBrain> | the annoying part ... it seems to be fine :P Even looking at the grfcodec decompile it seems what I expect it to be :) |
| 06:24 | <TrueBrain> | grrr |
| 06:26 | <TrueBrain> | ugh, no I am a potato .. the "another operator is following" flag is just in a weird place |
| 06:26 | <TrueBrain> | I always forget ... |
| 06:29 | <LordAro> | TruePotato |
| 06:29 | <TrueBrain> | yes! |
| 06:29 | <TrueBrain> | now it doesn't fail, but doesn't work either :P |
| 06:30 | <TrueBrain> | IMPROVEMENTS! |
| 06:30 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #285: [vi_VN] Translator access request https://git.io/J93HI |
| 06:32 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #284: [hr_HR] Translator access request https://git.io/J9Y53 |
| 06:42 | <TrueBrain> | owh, lol, totally unrelated change I made that was causing that |
| 06:42 | <TrueBrain> | LALALALAA :D |
| 06:43 | <TrueBrain> | a switch with no cases in NewGRF doesn't want to take my default .. hmm .. what did I do wrong :D |
| 06:46 | <TrueBrain> | ah .. "special case" |
| 06:46 | <TrueBrain> | jollygood |
| 07:00 | <+michi_cc> | Isn't all of NewGRF a single "special case"? :p |
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| 07:04 | <TrueBrain> | Haha, very true :) |
| 07:10 | <frosch123> | every grf generator so far fell for that trap |
| 07:10 | <frosch123> | firs probably three times |
| 07:12 | <frosch123> | "This sender has been verified from Openttd safe senders list" <- i love scams |
| 07:13 | <FLHerne> | I like the ones that are from 'flherne.uk network administrator' -- i.e. me :p |
| 07:13 | <TrueBrain> | But in good news, RPN to NewGRF is functional, with somewhat sane code :D now to extend it to support local variables :) |
| 07:14 | <TrueBrain> | Rust is really nice for this kind of parsing |
| 07:14 | <TrueBrain> | And it indeed is a single-pass compiler, what I was hoping for |
| 07:14 | <frosch123> | the text is even more funny: Breanneh Spears BookKeeper has made a payment of $107,980.89 to invoice C43252. |
| 07:14 | <frosch123> | i guess if you read that aloud it's Britney |
| 07:14 | <TrueBrain> | We are rich! |
| 07:16 | <frosch123> | we were rich |
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| 07:19 | <TrueBrain> | Awh :( |
| 07:28 | <andythenorth> | hmm |
| 07:28 | * | andythenorth played tanks |
| 07:28 | <andythenorth> | instead of FIRS 5 |
| 07:28 | <andythenorth> | why does this happen? :P |
| 07:30 | <TrueBrain> | because why not? |
| 07:44 | <TrueBrain> | hmm .. now the question, am I going for reduced NewGRF filesize, or for easy programming |
| 07:44 | <TrueBrain> | callbacks can use the same functions |
| 07:45 | <TrueBrain> | so I could put those in a set, and reuse that |
| 07:45 | <TrueBrain> | orrrrrrr ... I could just ignore that completely, and for every industry every callback just generate the full chain |
| 07:46 | <andythenorth> | FIRS is more fun long term |
| 07:46 | <andythenorth> | but more work |
| 07:46 | <andythenorth> | tanks no sense of reward, but easy :P |
| 07:47 | <frosch123> | TrueBrain: nfo size is dominant for 8bpp newgrfs, but dwarfed by the sprites in 32bpp newgrf |
| 07:47 | <frosch123> | imho ignore filesize, rather optimise for runtime |
| 07:47 | <TrueBrain> | which runtime .. TrueGRF or OpenTTD? :P |
| 07:48 | <TrueBrain> | pretty sure speed is the same for both solutions; it is just about reducing filesize or not, where with the latter I can be lovely lazy :) |
| 07:48 | <frosch123> | openttd ofc :p runtime probably prefers long va2 over deeply nested va2 |
| 07:48 | <TrueBrain> | hmm, inline functions you say? Hmm |
| 07:48 | <TrueBrain> | did not consider that yet |
| 08:19 | <TrueBrain> | right ... now how do I return for normal callbacks, let's find out! |
| 08:19 | <TrueBrain> | I guess this is the empty switch part :P |
| 08:37 | <TrueBrain> | Callback 0x15f returned unknown/invalid result 0x1 |
| 08:37 | <TrueBrain> | awh |
| 08:39 | <frosch123> | hey, you reached the age of useful error messages :) |
| 08:39 | <TrueBrain> | except that I don't understand it |
| 08:39 | <TrueBrain> | so not -that- useful :P |
| 08:40 | <frosch123> | why do you use cb 15f though :p |
| 08:40 | <TrueBrain> | https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Callbacks#Set_initial_production_level_on_construction_.2815F.29 |
| 08:40 | <TrueBrain> | FIRS is doing that .. :P |
| 08:41 | <TrueBrain> | but what is wrong with a result of 1? |
| 08:41 | <andythenorth> | best callback ever |
| 08:41 | <andythenorth> | can be used for ... other things :P |
| 08:41 | <TrueBrain> | owh, range must be 04..80h |
| 08:41 | <TrueBrain> | right |
| 08:41 | <+michi_cc> | "Production level; must be in range 04..80h! |
| 08:41 | <+michi_cc> | Too slow :) |
| 08:42 | <frosch123> | "< 04" means "industry closure" |
| 08:42 | <frosch123> | blame CS |
| 08:42 | <TrueBrain> | did not expect such a weird error in that case :) |
| 08:42 | <TrueBrain> | in good news, it works! :D \o/ |
| 08:47 | <TrueBrain> | what I do now, really childish: the result is stored in temp register 0 |
| 08:47 | <TrueBrain> | and the last chain fetches that register and uses no switches to return it |
| 08:47 | <TrueBrain> | pretty sure that can be done smarter |
| 08:47 | <TrueBrain> | but .. shrug |
| 08:55 | <andythenorth> | ok, let's add industry regions |
| 08:55 | <andythenorth> | not just clusters |
| 08:55 | * | andythenorth starts |
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| 08:58 | <TrueBrain> | okay, 5 industry callbacks are functional. Now I just need to add functions, local variables, and more industry variables before the FIRS variant starts to kick in :D |
| 08:58 | <TrueBrain> | baby steps |
| 08:59 | <frosch123> | how fluid are you in translating firs pynml into rpn? |
| 08:59 | <TrueBrain> | see the gist |
| 08:59 | <TrueBrain> | up to you to decide how fluent that is :P |
| 08:59 | <frosch123> | the gist scares me :) |
| 08:59 | <TrueBrain> | pyNML doesn't? :) |
| 09:02 | <TrueBrain> | but yeah, I think it was pretty simple |
| 09:02 | <TrueBrain> | RPN takes a bit getting used ot, but that is about it |
| 09:02 | <TrueBrain> | so I think I did a 1-to-1 conversion |
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| 09:03 | <andythenorth> | I have NFI how you convert pynml to rpn :P |
| 09:03 | <andythenorth> | there's a lot of loop expansion and conditionals in the templating |
| 09:05 | <TrueBrain> | the reason RPN supports loops :) |
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| 09:34 | <andythenorth> | hmm 392 instances of industry.economy_variations to refactor :P |
| 09:34 | <andythenorth> | eh oh |
| 09:38 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/team] frenchiveruti opened issue #286: [es_ES] Translator access request https://git.io/J9soW |
| 09:41 | <jlx_> | If you have a savegame and you need to resize the map (because you already connected to all cities), is there a map resizer? |
| 09:41 | <jlx_> | (I know, I asked a while ago, but maybe someone did this in the meantime) |
| 09:43 | <nielsm> | no, it's absurdly difficult to resize maps |
| 09:43 | <nielsm> | so one doesn't exist |
| 09:44 | <jlx_> | what's the difficulty? just append some tiles here and there... |
| 09:44 | <nielsm> | all coordinates of everything everywhere has to be remapped |
| 09:44 | <jlx_> | isn't this simple math? |
| 09:45 | <nielsm> | coordinates for the most part are in tile numbers, not (x,y) pairs |
| 09:46 | <nielsm> | it's "simple", but there's so many different kinds of game objects that need to be taken into account that making a map resizer would be a huge task with lots of room for mistakes where you forget some detail on some object |
| 09:47 | <nielsm> | which might only lead to issues long after the game has been converted and played for a while, making it hard/impossible to trace back to the cause |
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| 10:52 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Berbe opened issue #9782: [Bug]: Dedicated server requires useless client_name https://git.io/J9s6r |
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| 12:21 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #286: [es_ES] Translator access request https://git.io/J9soW |
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| 12:48 | <TrueBrain> | meh, function support is annoying .. means I need to be able to clone objects .. |
| 12:48 | <TrueBrain> | a function might be used more than once |
| 12:48 | <TrueBrain> | and so for inlining I need the ability to clone :P |
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| 13:03 | <TrueBrain> | right, that works .. now conditions .. pam pam pammm |
| 13:03 | <TrueBrain> | meh, not tonight :) |
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| 13:10 | * | andythenorth just got on a roll with FIRS :P |
| 13:50 | <@DorpsGek> | [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/J9s7B |
| 13:50 | <@DorpsGek> | - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) |
| 14:02 | <andythenorth> | hmm |
| 14:38 | <andythenorth> | code is fun |
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| 15:37 | <@peter1138> | hm |
| 15:42 | <andythenorth> | yes |
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| 16:51 | <@peter1138> | Hmm, do I have to be foolish tomorrow? |
| 16:51 | <TrueBrain> | only if you want to! |
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| 17:04 | -!- | Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> liquid.oftc.net quits: V453000, giords[m], yoltid[m], @Guest149, Timberwolf, @orudge, azubieta60, menelaos[m], ircer[m], jeremy[m], (+24 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) |
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| 17:05 | <LordAro> | OFTC having a bad time this evening |
| 17:05 | -!- | Strom is "Strom" on #pipewire #alpine-linux #openttd #virt #debian #kernelnewbies #tor-project #tor #debian-next |
| 17:06 | <TrueBrain> | you see that rarely these days |
| 17:12 | <supermop_Home> | could i add base set sprite numbers to this? https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:List_of_default_house_properties |
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