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08:19<antz>anyone using open ttd
08:20<antz>looking to edit orginal bank balance upon entering agame
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09:44<@peter1138>Edit how?
09:44<@peter1138>If you just want more money there's a cheat for that...
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10:52<TrueBrain>https://github.blog/changelog/2022-05-11-default-to-pr-titles-for-squash-merge-commit-messages/
10:52<TrueBrain>:o :o
10:53<TrueBrain>Can we enable this?!
10:56<+glx>I though it was already the case
10:57<+glx>plus PR number
10:59<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh closed issue #9882: [Bug]: Negative train total cargo https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/9882
11:00<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh merged pull request #9887: Change: Use an indent, not a dash, to list train capacity https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9887
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12:18<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #9890: Fix #9712: Cap town bridge length at original 11-tile limit https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9890
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13:07<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #9891: Feature: Towns don't build parallel, redundant bridges https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9891
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13:09<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on discussion #9299: Cities build irrational bridges: right on the shore, along the lake, next to each other https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/9299
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13:21<andythenorth>yo
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13:27<frosch123>moo
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13:43<andythenorth>what shall we do today?
13:44<frosch123>apparently i wanted to test my eints fies
14:03*andythenorth obsessing about some Horse thing
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14:20<frosch123>hmm... wording...
14:20<frosch123>if eints translation history shows two translations
14:20<frosch123>one was just changed and is not commited. i label it "commit pending"
14:21<frosch123>what do i label the one which is still in the repository?
14:21<frosch123>"last commit"?
14:21<frosch123>"lame duck"?
14:23<@Rubidium>"currently in main" (potentially with a "currently in 12.x")?
14:24<frosch123>"last build"?
14:25<frosch123>i do not know the branch name
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14:36<TrueBrain>"Most recent version"
14:36<TrueBrain>"Committed"
14:36<frosch123>yep, i went for "committed" :)
14:37<nielsm>"Current published"
14:37<TrueBrain>W00p, I won!
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15:03<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 opened pull request #71: Fix: Translation-hints from related languages showed the text from the current language, not from the related one. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/71
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15:03<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 opened pull request #72: Feature: the string translation history shows exact time-stamps, and which version is committed or pending. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/72
15:04<frosch123>hmm, oh, that includes #71
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15:06<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 updated pull request #72: Feature: the string translation history shows exact time-stamps, and which version is committed or pending. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/72
15:06<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 opened pull request #73: Fix #70: commited translations were not tagged as "committed". https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/73
15:08<frosch123>let's see whether i can restore the correct translations
15:10<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] glx22 approved pull request #71: Fix: Translation-hints from related languages showed the text from the current language, not from the related one. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/71#pullrequestreview-971337462
15:11<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] TrueBrain approved pull request #71: Fix: Translation-hints from related languages showed the text from the current language, not from the related one. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/71#pullrequestreview-971337836
15:11<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] LordAro approved pull request #71: Fix: Translation-hints from related languages showed the text from the current language, not from the related one. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/71#pullrequestreview-971338266
15:12<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] TrueBrain approved pull request #72: Feature: the string translation history shows exact time-stamps, and which version is committed or pending. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/72#pullrequestreview-971339031
15:12<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] glx22 approved pull request #72: Feature: the string translation history shows exact time-stamps, and which version is committed or pending. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/72#pullrequestreview-971339300
15:12<TrueBrain>Debug features
15:12<TrueBrain>Beautiful name
15:12<TrueBrain>At least you get enough approvals
15:13<frosch123>numbers per PR are degrading though, 3 approvals, 2 approvals, 0 approvals :p
15:13<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] TrueBrain approved pull request #73: Fix #70: commited translations were not tagged as "committed". https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/73#pullrequestreview-971340884
15:14<TrueBrain>We are reading ffs :p
15:14<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] glx22 approved pull request #73: Fix #70: commited translations were not tagged as "committed". https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/73#pullrequestreview-971341202
15:14<TrueBrain>And nasty bug
15:14<+glx>that's a nice oupsie
15:15<+glx>how many languages affected by it ?
15:15<frosch123>no idea :)
15:15<+glx>at least one is known
15:15<frosch123>i would have to make 280k webcalls to find out
15:16<frosch123>unless there is a ways to get the file from the eints-disk storage
15:16<+glx>there's the download button, but it gives the same as openttd master
15:17<TrueBrain>I can get you those files frosch123
15:17<TrueBrain>Just requires me to get off the couch
15:17<frosch123>glx: yeah, you can only see it, if you go to the individual string pages :)
15:19<TrueBrain>how do you want the files? :P
15:20<frosch123>as gist?
15:20<+glx>lol
15:20<TrueBrain>eeuuuhhh
15:20<frosch123>well, whatever, i use gist as pastebin :)
15:20<frosch123>if you use git to push to gist, you can upload any filetype
15:21<frosch123>also zips
15:22<TrueBrain>hmm ... seems I need to recover my aws-cli profile from my old system .. that is difficult right now .. hmm .. how else can I download the content of a bucket ...
15:25<TrueBrain>ah, found it :D w00p
15:26<frosch123>the cli profile? or the old system? :p
15:26<TrueBrain>cli profile :)
15:27<TrueBrain>it is 188MB of data
15:27<TrueBrain>lets hope compression does a lot :D
15:28<frosch123>i don't need the weird backup files
15:28<TrueBrain>compressed it is 117MB .. lol .. okay, lets remove those weird files :D
15:29<TrueBrain>bup01 .... what was wrong with the more commonly used name "bak" :P
15:29<frosch123>maybe it's dutch?
15:29<TrueBrain>nope
15:29<TrueBrain>backup is also backup
15:30<frosch123>even in the 90s?
15:30<TrueBrain>yeah ...
15:30<TrueBrain>strange, not? :D
15:30<TrueBrain>fetching the latest eints backup takes a bit, as the dorpsgek backup is in the same folder
15:30<frosch123>at least here CS switched from german to english only with public internet
15:30<TrueBrain>which is just 25000 files it is validating ...
15:30<frosch123>there are all these fancy translations for compiler, linker and so one
15:31<TrueBrain>we have some purist that try to introduce Dutch words for English words
15:31<TrueBrain>they fail horribly
15:31<TrueBrain>as it sounds very Belgium
15:31<TrueBrain>(no offense meant)
15:31<+glx>oh we have the same here
15:32<+glx>when they could use existing beautiful QC translations
15:32<TrueBrain>a milkshake becomes "melkgeschud" .. milk -> melk, shake -> schudden, or in the right tense: geschud .. melkgeschud .. yes, now you made a new word for absolutely no good reason other than being a fucking twat
15:32<frosch123>yeah, i work in a french company. some home-grown infrastructure has only french names
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15:34<TrueBrain>60MB still
15:34<TrueBrain>how to get that to you ... euuuhhhhhhhhh
15:34<LordAro>start an ftp server
15:35<TrueBrain>ftp, no, but ... you do have the right idea, tnx
15:35<LordAro>damn
15:35<LordAro>:p
15:35<+glx>and I think the worst is marketing forcing to use digital everywhere but digital is related to fingers here :)
15:36<frosch123>ah that's why the CEO always plays with his fingers, when talking about the cloud
15:37<+glx>the right term is and always was numérique
15:38<TrueBrain>ngrok to the rescue!
15:38<TrueBrain>keep forgetting how ease that makes a lot of shit these days :)
15:39<frosch123>is that a turn server?
15:39<TrueBrain>sort-of, yes
15:39<TrueBrain>https://ngrok.com/
15:40<TrueBrain>I love how websites do not make clear what it actually does :P
15:40<TrueBrain>all these fancy words, for simply saying: we tunnel your connection to one of our edge public IPs :P
15:40<frosch123>yeah, that's why i asked :)
15:41<TrueBrain>cloudflared is similar, but requires more setup :P
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15:46<michi_cc_>The best German CS term is still Kellerspeicher, IMHO.
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15:46<frosch123>i only used Kellerautomat
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15:47<+glx>I remember when VBA was localised
15:47<+glx>not a good idea :)
15:47<frosch123>is it no longer?
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15:48<+glx>dunno maybe it's still an option
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15:48<+glx>macros are still localised I think, but IIRC excel understands both
15:50*andythenorth waves at `color` again :P
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15:51<nielsm>in excel the function names in formulas in the regular UI are localized but the VBA is not, yeah
15:51<LordAro>fun excel fact i was reminded of recently: guess the result of `=2+"2 a"`
15:52<nielsm>either it's 4 or it's an error
15:52<+glx>it should error
15:52<LordAro>nope
15:52<nielsm>the operator for string concatenation is &
15:52<LordAro>(and when you give in and type it into excel, can you explain the output?)
15:53<+glx>2,083333333
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15:54<+glx>but I don't know why
15:54<nielsm>ah right, it's "2 o'clock am"
15:54<nielsm>which is one twelvth of a day
15:54<LordAro>isn't excel great?
15:54<TrueBrain>No
15:55<TrueBrain>At least it integrates with Eve now
15:55<LordAro>:)
15:55<LordAro>lol
15:55<+glx>oh yeah I just typed `2 a` in a cell and it converted to `2:00 AM`
16:19<andythenorth>hmm Horse time
16:19<andythenorth>enough obsessing
16:20<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #9888: Fix #9870: Don't update infrastructure totals when overbuilding object on canal https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9888#pullrequestreview-971411488
16:21<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #9890: Fix #9712: Cap town bridge length at original 11-tile limit https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9890#pullrequestreview-971411766
16:24<frosch123>https://dpaste.org/ZUbEH <- glx: number of affected strings :)
16:25<+glx>could have been worse
16:25<frosch123>only one french
16:26<+glx>in openmsx
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16:33<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 merged pull request #71: Fix: Translation-hints from related languages showed the text from the current language, not from the related one. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/71
16:34<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 merged pull request #72: Feature: the string translation history shows exact time-stamps, and which version is committed or pending. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/72
16:34<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 merged pull request #73: Fix #70: commited translations were not tagged as "committed". https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/73
16:34<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 closed issue #70: Eints is reverting/ignoring translations, but they still exist in the History https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/issues/70
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16:35<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 commented on issue #70: Eints is reverting/ignoring translations, but they still exist in the History https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/issues/70
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16:38<TrueBrain>Don't forget to tag for a new release when you are ready
16:38<TrueBrain>Don't forget to hit the autogenerate changelog button
16:38<frosch123>waiting for staging
16:38<TrueBrain>Smart
16:38<frosch123>ok, never saw/pressed that button
16:42<TrueBrain>Ain't it a pretty button? :d
16:42<+glx>it's a cute button :)
16:46<frosch123>lol, staging confused me yesterday when all translations were "2 months old"
16:46<frosch123>turns out, eints does not know what a month is
16:46<frosch123>apparently a month is 30 weeks
16:46<+glx>another thing to fix ?
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16:49<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 opened pull request #74: Fix: relative age of translations assumed months to be 30 weeks long. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/74
16:50<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] glx22 approved pull request #74: Fix: relative age of translations assumed months to be 30 weeks long. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/74#pullrequestreview-971442030
16:51<+glx>years was right, but it's better now
16:53<frosch123>the new debugging feature paid out :)
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16:58<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 merged pull request #74: Fix: relative age of translations assumed months to be 30 weeks long. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/74
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17:06<TrueBrain>30 week months .. that is funny
17:09<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 created new tag: 1.2.3 https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/releases/tag/1.2.3
17:09<frosch123>i think i pressed that button before, i just forgot about it :)
17:10<LordAro>i'd have called it 1.3.0 :p
17:10<frosch123>aw, i was pretty excited to get to tag 1.2.3
17:11<LordAro>true
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20:44<@DorpsGek>[OpenTTD/eints] absay commented on issue #70: Eints is reverting/ignoring translations, but they still exist in the History https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/issues/70
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