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---Logopened Mon Nov 12 00:00:25 2007
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05:14<Groundy-#uml->>Hey there, does anyone know why my UML kernel clock would be running extremely fast?
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09:09<tuxbubling-#uml->>hey there
09:11<tuxbubling-#uml->>got again my guest network connection down.... It can only ping hosts but none on the network... I'm using bridge any idea??
09:13<tuxbubling-#uml->>can't even ping default gateway
09:14<tuxbubling-#uml->>guest ip config:
09:15<tuxbubling-#uml->>host ip config:
09:15<tuxbubling-#uml->>if you have any idea :(
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09:44<tuxbubling-#uml->>someone awake has an idea on my problem?
09:46<caker-#uml->>tuxbubling: brctl show br0 ?
09:47<tuxbubling-#uml->>$ brctl show br0
09:47<tuxbubling-#uml->>bridge name bridge id STP enabled interfaces
09:47<tuxbubling-#uml->>br0 8000.005043002be2 no eth2
09:47<tuxbubling-#uml->> uml-conn0
09:47<tuxbubling-#uml->>sorry for the past
09:49<tuxbubling-#uml->>no problems on the host side btw
09:49<tuxbubling-#uml->>the bridge is my default interface
09:53<tuxbubling-#uml->>caker: ?
09:57<tuxbubling-#uml->>caker: got this in my dmesg
09:57<caker-#uml->>my lack of response indicates that I've got nothing more to offer you :)
09:59<tuxbubling-#uml->>lol ok
10:00<tuxbubling-#uml->>i guess that the hardware interface hung and soft reset itself
10:00<tuxbubling-#uml->>that's not important for the host as it doesn't show any deconnections, but appear to hang the guest
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10:14<jdike-#uml->>Hi guys
10:16<jjkola-#uml->>hello jdike
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10:46<tuxbubling-#uml->>ok let's see if the same problem happen with another driver
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12:12<Magotari-#uml->>jdike: Hi. I lost a fight with my sleep deprivation three hours ago, but I might have found a bug just before that.
12:12<Magotari-#uml->>Does the port channel work for you?
12:12<jdike-#uml->>last I checked, yes
12:12<Magotari-#uml->>It did not work for me with defconfig.
12:12<Magotari-#uml->>That was before I started messing around with paths, I think.
12:13<Magotari-#uml->>I was downloading an older tree, to confirm this...
12:13<Magotari-#uml->>But then I just had to shut my eyes for a second. A three hour second.
12:18<Magotari-#uml->>I will try to confirm it with a clean tree. For now trying with 23-rc9
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12:20<Magotari-#uml->>And a question. Are style-only patches welcome? I think I could clean up the whole thing with the help of checkpatch.
12:20<jdike-#uml->>maybe you need some more sleep
12:20<Magotari-#uml->>Yeah, trying an old one first.
12:20<Magotari-#uml->>No, not 24-rc9...
12:20<jdike-#uml->>whoops, misread that
12:21<jdike-#uml->>they are, but I'd prefer to do them by hand and check them with checkpatch
12:21<jdike-#uml->>I see bugs and stuff while making a style pass through a file
12:21<jdike-#uml->>I also clean up the includes while I'm at it
12:21<Magotari-#uml->>Hmm... Good idea. I might see some new stuff that way.
12:22[~]Magotari #uml todo++;#uml-> todo++;
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12:29<Magotari-#uml->>rc9 worked fine.
12:29<Magotari-#uml->>Trying 24-rc2 now.
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12:43<Magotari-#uml->>No, it works just fine. So what gives? Maybe I am too tired.
12:50<jdike-#uml->>OH, BTW, your girlfriend came through her surgery OK?
12:52<Magotari-#uml->>Yes, she did. In fact she is great.
12:53<Magotari-#uml->>Thanks for asking.
12:53<Magotari-#uml->>That surgery is the reason why I am so tired. Could not sleep on the weekend very well.
12:54<Magotari-#uml->>She is already walking around and recovering pretty briskly. Keyhole surgery is a brilliant idea.
12:54<jdike-#uml->>much better than opening you all the way up
12:55<Magotari-#uml->>I had one of those, it was ugly.
12:56<Magotari-#uml->>I am scrapping my patch to do with paths. It cannot be done as I would like it, in.telnetd seems to expect a full path. That makes us need port-helper to be in /usr/lib/uml anyway, so there is not much point of messing around with the path in one other place.
12:57<Magotari-#uml->>I still have a kernel which will just forever sit in a blank telnet session, but I cannot reproduce it on a different one. Not important, it work in rc2.
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13:55<Magotari-#uml->>jdike: Sorry I keep asking so much, but... One more question. When I get my style patches to you, would you prefer one per directory, one per file or just one for everything?
13:56<jdike-#uml->>not one for everything
13:56<Magotari-#uml->>It will be a while because of the scope of the project, but I would like to know beforehand.
13:56<jdike-#uml->>one per directory I guess
13:56<Magotari-#uml->>Right. Thanks.
13:56<jdike-#uml->>The way I've been doing them is one per existing patch
13:57<jdike-#uml->>if I have some non-trivial patch that's going in, then I'll also do a style patch that covers the same files
13:57<jdike-#uml->>that way the style changes introduce less patch noise than otherwise
13:58<jdike-#uml->>because some of the noise is covered by the other patch
13:58<Magotari-#uml->>Sadly, I don't have any of non-trivials pending as things are right now. I keep working on reading UML code and looking for things, but for now I have nothing to patch.
13:59<Magotari-#uml->>Patch noise is the exact reason why I asked if they are ok.
13:59<jdike-#uml->>yeah, that's the major concern
14:00<jdike-#uml->>UML does need style attention, so I've been trying to bury the noise as best I can in other patches
14:00<jdike-#uml->>you might look at files that haven't changed in years, BTW
14:00<Magotari-#uml->>I would love to avoid causing trouble, but I think it beats idling. But best course of action for me for now to keep on reading the code. Cover the noise up.
14:00<jdike-#uml->>there, patch noise doesn't matter
14:00<jdike-#uml->>and there, you'll find the oldest, nastiest code
14:01<Magotari-#uml->>Right. Thanks for help. :)
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14:46<Magotari-#uml->>jdike: I just want to thank you for your help with getting started on contributing here. It is really good to have someone experienced and helpful on my side.
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14:55<jdike-#uml->>always glad to help
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16:20<niteOwl-#uml->>Hi jjkola thanks for the help the other day
16:22<Magotari-#uml->>jdike: I have just cleaned up the first file, drivers/chan_kern.c. Checkpatch was happy, and my manual reading of the code found what looks like an unused variable. My dillema now is this: I had to change a few other files to get UML to compile again. So a patch would be style in one file + code in three files. Any idea what would make sense to do now? Of course I could also do a style audit on the changed files, and fix them up too.. Thoughts?
16:23<jdike-#uml->>I've been through arch/um/drivers, and it's fairly style-clean
16:23<Magotari-#uml->>Hmm. To clarify: Total changed files: 3. Code changes: 3 files. Style changes: 1
16:23<jdike-#uml->>except for ubd_kern.c which is a mess still
16:23<Magotari-#uml->>Ah. I see. Ok, so I shall just boil the patch down to the code side of things.
16:23<jdike-#uml->>what did you find, style-wise?
16:24<Magotari-#uml->>Hmm. Mostly stuff with else positioning.
16:24<Magotari-#uml->>One for(foo) instead of for (foo).
16:24<Magotari-#uml->>Something else. Tiny things.
16:25<jdike-#uml->>I'd just split the style stuff and the code stuff apart
16:26<jdike-#uml->>if the style is just tiny stuff, I wouldn't worry about it
16:26<jdike-#uml->>it's changes up and down a file which cause patch problems
16:26<Magotari-#uml->>I'm playing it safe, just the code for now, and style separately.
16:28<Magotari-#uml->>The code change is pretty big for me, whopping three files and maybe 10 lines.
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16:36<Magotari-#uml->>Pretty much ready for submission at this point. It compiled fine, so I don't see what could break... Just one quick test and I am sending it in. I test stuff too much.
16:39<jdike-#uml->>I keep forgetting to run checkpatch
16:40<jdike-#uml->>I send patches in to Andrew and get notifications back from him that they are in his tree
16:40<jdike-#uml->>plus notifications of the extra patches generated by his automated checkpatch run
16:40<jdike-#uml->>kind of embarassing
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16:42<Magotari-#uml->>Yeah. I got one once too, from the signal patch thingy, when we both forgot it.
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16:42<Magotari-#uml->>Pretty embarassing... Yeah. True. :/
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16:57<Magotari-#uml->>jdike: Patch sent.
16:57<Magotari-#uml->>Whew, took me about an hour and a half from finding to submission. I am getting better at this.
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17:47<jjkola-#uml->>hmm, looks like the servers decided to not crash today, maybe they will tomorrow :p
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---Logopened Mon Nov 12 20:53:14 2007
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---Logclosed Tue Nov 13 00:00:58 2007