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---Logopened Tue May 18 00:00:41 2010
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---Logopened Tue May 18 11:34:55 2010
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16:54-!-NightStrike is "NightStrike" on #uml @+#mingw-w64
16:54<NightStrike:#uml>hi
16:54<linbot:#uml>HELLO!
16:55<NightStrike:#uml>so I've been having a lot of issues with seg faults, so I looked into my kernel config, hoped I could od something there
16:55<NightStrike:#uml>I noticed that hte processor selection was wrong, and I can't chooise the right one. Using 2.6.33.4, I can only choose from core2, mk8, or atom
16:55<NightStrike:#uml>I have an older xeon, family 15, so it doesn't qualify for any of those
16:55<NightStrike:#uml>how do I choose the right one?
17:02<NightStrike:#uml>wow.. so I just went through all the nicks on the bot's seen list... nobody has done anything in this channel for a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time
17:03<caker:#uml>heh
17:03<caker:#uml>this channel is dead :(
17:04<NightStrike:#uml>someone speaks!
17:04<NightStrike:#uml>[17:00] <linbot> caker was last seen in #uml 5 weeks, 6 days, 1 hour, 27 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <caker> SokoX: wrong UML .. read /topic
17:04<NightStrike:#uml>haha
17:04<NightStrike:#uml>why's the channel dead?
17:04<caker:#uml>because UML is almost dead :( it's sad
17:04<caker:#uml>it's still limping along, but without Jeff's direction, it's bitrotted slightly
17:04<NightStrike:#uml>oftc is a good network for these kind of things... #gcc is always lively, and #mingw-w64 is my channel.. we do massive amounts of work in there
17:05<NightStrike:#uml>Ah, I had no idea.. I thought UML was still very active
17:05<NightStrike:#uml>though I guess that explains why the information on the site is so out of whack
17:05<NightStrike:#uml>this was teh longest, btw...
17:05<NightStrike:#uml>[17:01] <linbot> silug was last seen in #uml 2 years, 10 weeks, 3 days, 3 hours, 11 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <silug> and thanks. :)
17:06<NightStrike:#uml>that's pretty intense
17:06<caker:#uml>it's in maintenance mode, and any attention it does receive seems mostly out of pity
17:06<NightStrike:#uml>is there another alternative to uml that's active?
17:06<caker:#uml>kvm doesn't require a hypervisor (Linux kernel IS the hypervisor) but it requires hardware VT support
17:06<NightStrike:#uml>I don't have that on this machine
17:07<caker:#uml>Xen doesn't require hardware, but has a slight configuration learning curve
17:07<NightStrike:#uml>why not put out a request for help on the linux kernel mailing lists? Or do some GSoC stuff?
17:07<caker:#uml>there's also: http://www.virtualbox.org/
17:08<caker:#uml>go for it :) .. I see lkml uml topics every week or two
17:08<NightStrike:#uml>ah.. was trying to stay away from vbox/vmware
17:08<NightStrike:#uml>who's Jeff?
17:08<caker:#uml>anyhow, I successfully ran UML just perfectly up to 2.6.24 or so. if you can deal with an older kernel, try one of those
17:09<caker:#uml>Jeff Dike (the man behind uml)
17:09<NightStrike:#uml>where'd he go?
17:09<caker:#uml>Intel
17:09<caker:#uml>I have heard that very recent kernel.org versions, UML has problems...
17:10<caker:#uml>back off a few, and go from there ...
17:10<NightStrike:#uml>darn
17:10<NightStrike:#uml>no way to get current stuff to work?
17:11<NightStrike:#uml>I saw somethin gwhere 2.6.30 and 31 were bad, but 32 fixed what was wrong
17:11<NightStrike:#uml>on one of the uml mailing lists
17:13<NightStrike:#uml>why don't you pick up the mantle?
17:16<caker:#uml>I have other interests :)
17:16<NightStrike:#uml>can you at least fix bugs?
17:16<caker:#uml>nope
17:17<NightStrike:#uml>well that's depressing :(
17:17<NightStrike:#uml>do you know why the cpu selection list has only three choices in it when configuring the kernel?
17:18<caker:#uml>sounds like you enabled something that excluded those others? dunno
17:18<NightStrike:#uml>I just did a default config
17:22<NightStrike:#uml>here's my .config: http://sprunge.us/eZZd
17:27<NightStrike:#uml>what mailing list do you suggest I post to?
17:28<NightStrike:#uml>and where can I get a current uml tools package? The SF site only has up to 2004.
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---Logclosed Wed May 19 00:00:43 2010